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gdsteele
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Does anyone have any info on this radio? - P1350AX

Postby gdsteele » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:22 pm

Can anyone tell me about the P1350AX Suitcase repeater? How is it programmed? Would anyone have a user's manual?

Thanks.
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Re: Does anyone have any info on this radio?

Postby txshooter » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:36 pm

Got a picture? The older suitcase repeaters contain crystals.......got one sitting on the floor next to me as I type 8)
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Postby gdsteele » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:14 pm

Here is a link to pictures of one on eBay.

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/sho ... 0&format=0

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Postby firemedic » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:02 pm

Secret Service Tone Remote Portable Base. Unit is based on the 12 channel MX crystal radios one for RX and one for TX. Full duplex setup from what I can tell. Uses a syntor x power amp to get 40 watts out from the portable exciter. Has encryption and a voter of some sort in it and a tone generator for various line levels. I think these were setup at major events for comms and tied back into a comm van with a digitac comparator for voting and choosing the best base station. The wireline interface in them is 2/4 wire selectable. I have one but have had zero luck in getting info on the unit. If you can find out anything let me know. I even went through channels with the Whitehouse Communications Agency which is who this unit was produced for and it was a SP run so Motorola seems to have zero info on it. They are in the 150-160 range and the one I have has a PL of 151.4. They are showing up on the east coast at the Letterkenny and Ft. Meade DMRO sites recently and a few of the west coast sites as well. They must be excessing the older equipment out to the DMRO sites and auctions. I cannot find a way to make it repeat from the controls that are there. It probably could be interfaced to an external controller of some sort though to make a portable repeater.
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Re: Does anyone have any info on this radio? - P1350AX

Postby PETNRDX » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:30 pm

For what it is worth:
I have seen them used "stand alone" as a portable repeater, so there must be a full duplex mode on at least some models.
And I have seen them used as simplex Remote Base from both wire line, and from a CP on top of a hotel.
Those were WHCA versions I saw used while doing dignitary protection.
Never saw the "guts" of those.
We had a few of others during the Goodwill Games, that I saw open, and they used the MX360S Bi-Polar PROM version of the handheld.
These were DOD assets, so the techs weren't quite as hinky about people looking over their shoulder.
The last ones I saw used were around 1999 or 2000 and were Keyloaded with the older body KVL, not the 3000, so likely were older units, but not for WHCA but other persons of interest.
Agency I worked for considered buying a couple, but the cost was kind of silly.

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Re: Does anyone have any info on this radio? - P1350AX

Postby ka8ypy » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:21 pm

firemedic wrote:Secret Service Tone Remote Portable Base. Unit is based on the 12 channel MX crystal radios one for RX and one for TX. Full duplex setup from what I can tell. Uses a syntor x power amp to get 40 watts out from the portable exciter. Has encryption and a voter of some sort in it and a tone generator for various line levels. I think these were setup at major events for comms and tied back into a comm van with a digitac comparator for voting and choosing the best base station. The wireline interface in them is 2/4 wire selectable. I have one but have had zero luck in getting info on the unit. If you can find out anything let me know. I even went through channels with the Whitehouse Communications Agency which is who this unit was produced for and it was a SP run so Motorola seems to have zero info on it. They are in the 150-160 range and the one I have has a PL of 151.4. They are showing up on the east coast at the Letterkenny and Ft. Meade DMRO sites recently and a few of the west coast sites as well. They must be excessing the older equipment out to the DMRO sites and auctions. I cannot find a way to make it repeat from the controls that are there. It probably could be interfaced to an external controller of some sort though to make a portable repeater.


Keith is right on the above info, but the MX radio uses an EEprom and needs a suitcase programmer to program the chip for TX, RX and PL. We indeed used them as full on repeaters when carrying a full on 110 watt machine on a trip was out of the question. Encryption is most likely DES maybe even DES-XL as that is what was run in the WHCA radios up until they moved to the System Sabers and eventually Astro Sabers and then XTSs.

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Postby gdsteele » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:14 am

Thanks to everyone that responded. That was more information than I expected.

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Postby firemedic » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:16 pm

Anyone know the voodoo trick to get it to in cabinet repeat? I'll tinker around with this thing again if I can get it to repeat. I have a spectra suitcase but this would make a nice backup unit. Just wondering.

Also if anyone has any info on the spectra suitcase wireline card option contact me. I've got some questions but can find squat for info. Another WHCA sp product from what I can tell.
Keith Dobbins N8KLD
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W8TAP Repeater Group
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