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Motorola Body Radios?

Postby NSPD » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:24 am

I found these listed on ebay as "Covert Body-Worn Radios". I have never seen anything like this before, and although they are listed for way outside my price range, i'm curious what they are.

Model: P2054AX
Type: PX302BJ

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby MotoFAN » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:21 pm

Wow. What's freq range and where the battery?
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby n7maq » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:12 pm

IIRC that is a XTS3000 (or Astro Saber with an XTS3000 LCD), Mike Gilbert has told me about them.

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby Pj » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:25 pm

Its a XTS3000 covered by manual 68P07994D18-A
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby mikegilbert » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:39 pm

Holy sh*t! That's the DCR3000 (Digital Covert Radio) Also known as the Jackal!

It comes in two flavors; modified XTS3000 with connected 600mAh battery, and one with a separate 1700mAh batt which is worn on the opposite side of the body. There should be a small hand-held control head that allows you to change channels, adjust volume etc. What a find. :o I've got a PDF of the unit somewhere. I'll post it up when I find it.

Technical specifications:
General settings
Frequency band: VHF (136-174 MHz) UHF (403-470 MHz) 800 (806-869 MHz)
Number of channels 32
Dimensions (HxWxD) 245,6 x 59,6 x 20,8 mm (with battery 600 mA / h)
Weight 591 gr. (With battery 600 mA / h)
Transmitter Power: 1 / 5 W (VHF) 1 / 4 Watt (UHF) 1 / 3 W (800)
The method of voice encoding IMBE (CAI) Improved Multi Band Excitation
Encryption Algorithms DES-OFB (APCO 25), DES, DES-XL, DVP, DVP-XL
Number of algorithms 2 of the algorithm on the radio
The number of keys on the radio 16 keys

Here's a battery for it: http://www.axessinternational.com/?pc=/product-catalogue/product/am4016li-12/


The current version is the TCR1000 covert Tetra radio:

http://www.motorola.com/web/Business/Product%20Lines/Dimetra%20TETRA/Terminals/Portable%20Radios/TCR1000/TCR1000_Brochure_8pp.pdf?localeId=252


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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby MotoFAN » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:17 am

Damn! Interesting! Anybody seen CDR3000 for sale? And any chances to get accessories, like mic, speaker & maybe vibro call device?
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby MotoFAN » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:04 pm

I want to see HHCH for CDR3000! Anybody!
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby KE7JFF » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:43 am

I've heard of these....and one of the design criteria was that they are mountable on...wait for it...bra band.

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby MotoFAN » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:51 am

Who has used them? I mean agancies.
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby mikegilbert » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:45 pm

MotoFAN wrote:Who has used them? I mean agancies.


IIRC, RCMP and Metro London Police were two larger users.
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby MP 6.7 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:26 pm

That TCR1000 looks like a wireless microphone transmitter...except they only do 100mW...

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby MotoFAN » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:36 pm

mikegilbert wrote:IIRC, RCMP and Metro London Police were two larger users.

Why they needed covert radios?
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby KE7JFF » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:37 am

MotoFAN wrote:
mikegilbert wrote:IIRC, RCMP and Metro London Police were two larger users.

Why they needed covert radios?


For their covert operations...
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby motorola_otaku » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:05 am

Pj wrote:Its a XTS3000 covered by manual 68P07994D18-A

Blast, no return on this part number in MOL. Any luck with that PDF, Mike?
I'm curious to see if it uses the same boards (and especially the same secure modules) as a plain vanilla XTS3000.
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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby wavetar » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:28 am

Yep, I saw some of those live & in person back 11 or 12 years ago when the RCMP was switching onto the Nova Scotia SmartZone Omnilink system at the time. Unfortunately, they handled their own programming, so I didn't get to play with them. I was told they were only capable of 16 talkgroups (I see Mike says 32, so that's probably right), but they used the same RSS as the regular XTS3000...I assume they are compatible with newer CPS, but can't say for a fact.

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby Pj » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:43 am

Tidbits from the service manual:

EDN5929_ Flexible Antenna
EDN5937_ Ladies shoulder harness
EDN5938_ Lightweight shoulder harness
EDN5939_ Leg harness Not approved for UHF models
EDN5940_ Mesh shoulder harness
EDN5941_ Cotton shoulder harness
EDN5942_ Dipole Antenna
EDN5943_ Semi-Rigid Antenna Not approved for UHF models


P2054AX VHF (136-178MHz) 1-5 Watt ASTRO XTS 3000 Digital Covert Portable Radio
P2055AX UHF R1 (403-470MHz) 2 Watt ASTRO XTS 3000 Digital Covert Portable Radio
P2056AX UHF R2 (450-520MHz) 2 Watt ASTRO XTS 3000 Digital Covert Portable Radio


NCN6128B Board, Controller
NLD8898G Board, VHF Transceiver (136-178MHz)
NLE4249A Board, UHF Range 1 Transceiver (403-470MHz)
NLE4250A Board, UHF Range 2 Transceiver (450-520MHz)
NTN8250C Board, Vocoder
PLN1367A Assembly, Casting
PHN6151A_ Front Cover Kit
PLN7759A Flex Circuit, Power
PLN7760A Flex Circuit, Control
SDCN4346A Handheld Control Device
SDNN4348A_ Battery, Nickel-Cadmium
0105956U30_ Seal, B+
0300120421 Setscrew
0705330Z01 Bracket, Display Flex
0705368Z01 Bracket, Keypad Flex
1405874Z01 Insulator, Controller
2605342Z01 Shield, Controller Board
2605343Z01 Shield, RF Board
2605344Z01 Shield, Vocoder
2805214Z03 Connector, Compression, 50-Pin
2805216Z03 Connector, Compression, 20-Pin
3205349Z01 Seal, Main
4205631Z01 Clip, Locking
5105385Y19 Module, LCD Display
7505336Z01 Pad, Display Locator


SDCN4346A Handheld Control Device


PHN6151A ASSEMBLY, Housing
5105385Y19 MODULE, LCD
7505336Z01 PAD, Display Locator
4205631Z01 CLIP, Control Locking (4 req’d)
2605342Z01 SHIELD, Controller Front
0705330Z01 BRACKET, Flex Attach Display
0705368Z01 BRACKET, Flex Attach Keypad
NCN6128_ KIT, Controller Board
NTN8253B KIT, DES Encryption Board
or NTN8254B KIT, DES-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8255A KIT, DES-OFB Encryption Board
or NTN8256B KIT, DVI-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8257B KIT, DVP-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8258A KIT, DES-OFB and DES-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8259A KIT, DES-OFB and DVP-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8260B KIT, DES-XL and DVP-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8261B KIT, DVP-XL and DVI-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8326A KIT, DES-OFB and DVI-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8328A KIT, DVP Encryption Board
or NTN8329A KIT, DVI-XL and DVP Encryption Board
or NTN8330A KIT, DVP and DES-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8331A KIT, DVP and DVP-XL Encryption Board
or NTN8418A KIT, DES-OFB and DES Encryption Board
or PLN7748A DVI-XL Variant Tag8
or PLN7750A Variant Tag6
2605344Z01 SHIELD, Vocoder with Insulators
2805216Z03 CONNECTOR, Compression, 20-Pin
2805214Z03 CONNECTOR, Compression, 50-Pin
2605343Z01 SHIELD, RF with Insulator
4205631Z02 CLIP, Locking Short
NTN8250_ KIT, Vocoder Board
NLD8898_ KIT, VHF RF Board
PLN7759A FLEX CIRCUIT, Power
0105956U30 SEAL, B+
1505884Z01 CASTING
0105956U29 CABLE, Coaxial
0785879A01 BRACKET, Shield
0305731J22 SCREW, 4-40 (2 req’d)
PLN7760A FLEX CIRCUIT, Control
1385973A01 ESCUTCHEON, Rear
3205349Z02 SEAL, Main
SDNN4348A BATTERY, NiCd
0300120421 SETSCREW (2 req’d)
1405874Z01 INSULATOR, Controller
1485970A01 INSULATOR, Contact
0986102A01 CONNECTOR, Antenna
3985969A01 CONTACT, Ground


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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby mikegilbert » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:28 pm

Still searching for the PDF...if I do have it, it's buried deep on a CDR or old HD somewhere.

I did find this image I saved of it- shows you which connector does what. Pinouts are a different story though.

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Here's an image of the Thales (Racal) Cougar 2000 covert radio. Very similar in design to the DCR3000:

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby escomm » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:02 pm

Looks like we can add an APX3000 to this list :D

http://newsroom.motorolasolutions.com/i ... ilsId=1824

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Re: Motorola Body Radios?

Postby KE7JFF » Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:40 pm

One of the lady officers I know told me when they did details that required them to wear nice dresses and use the DCR when they first came out the issue of placing them in that scenario was a problem. Motorola's actual suggestion was to gaffer tape them to their back. Later on they came up the harnesses and also "underdress hooks" which I am sure you can guess what those help with.
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