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Minitor V Amplified Charger *** CAUTION ***

Postby MOTO_LR » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:09 pm

For several weeks we have heard reports of Minitor V's that were damaged and rendered unusable when used with the amplified charger.

Last week we received confirmation that Motorola was not shipping the amplified charger for the Minitor V.

Today, posted on MOL is SRN #1512 - "Minitor V Charger Amplifier Related Battery or Pager Failures"

Bob
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Service & Repair Notes (SRN)
Bulletin
Technical Information SRN: 1512
Government & Enterprise Mobility Solutions - GEMS APC: 136
1301 E. Algonquin Road December 2005
Schaumburg, IL. 60196
From: Paging Products Group
SUBJECT: Minitor V Charger Amplifier Related Battery or Pager Failures
SYSTEMS AFFECTED: Minitor V pagers and batteries when using a Charger Amplifier
MODELS & OPTIONS AFFECTED: All Minitor V pagers and batteries when using a Charger Amplifier
SYMPTOM: Battery will not charge or battery / pager appear to be dead after charging in a charger amplifier
CAUSE: Is under investigation by Motorola Paging Engineering Team
Workaround: The paging products group recommends the immediate discontinued use of the charger amplifier.
1) If any of your customers are using a charger amplifier and are experiencing the symptoms listed above and do not
already have a standard charger for the pagers, please contact Motorola TSO at 800-927-2744 prompts 3–4-1 and
request a standard charger and battery, if needed.
2) If the customer already has a standard chargers and the battery is defective, please contact Motorola Parts
Department at 800-422-4210 to obtain a warranty battery replacement.
3) If the pager is defective, please return to your regional Motorola Service Center for repair.
**Note – if it can not be determined if the battery or pager are defective, please contact your local dealer or return both
to the Radio Support Center.
This is an informational bulletin only. No reference to warranty is implied or intended.

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Minitor V Charger Amplifier Related Battery or Pager Failure

Postby MOTO_LR » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:54 pm

Today Motorola posted SRN1512A, Up Issue to SRN1512.

They added the following Note ...

**Note 2 – At this time, please do not return any of the charger ampliers to the Radio Support Center or Parts Dept. Once the final resolution is ready to be implimented, this bulletin will be up issued with instructions on
how to get the charger amplifier repaired.

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Postby tvsjr » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:27 pm

So will they send a standard charger for free? I've got a few M5s enroute with amplified chargers... fscking Motorola.

Other than that, the M5s seem to work great. Maybe Kenwood will build a Minitor competitor one day...

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Postby DJP126 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:42 pm

Today Motorola posted SRN1512A, Up Issue to SRN1512.


Let's see, Motorola says don't return the defective chargers for the time being......

CTDI takes over all the depot businesses on Tuesday......

Anybody care to guess?
Dave

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Postby xmo » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:10 pm

"CTDI takes over all the depot businesses on Tuesday..."
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Apparently M has the option to buy these businesses back if things don't work out. Of course, by then they would have to hire all new employees - new, younger, cheaper employees.

Would they do that on purpose? Naahhh...

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Postby kb4mdz » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:44 am

Apparently M has the option to buy these businesses back if things don't work out. Of course, by then they would have to hire all new employees - new, younger, cheaper employees.

Would they do that on purpose? Naahhh.


New, younger, cheaper employees, with no experience.......managed by some Marketing & Sales wonk...

ohh, such bitterness in one so young.

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Postby bcooper » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:16 pm

Is there any word on what the status of this is? Will there be a fix soon?

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Postby MOTO_LR » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:55 pm

Nothing new concerning this issue has been posted on MOL as of 2/16/06.

Bob

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Postby kmoose » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:43 am

tvsjr wrote:Maybe Kenwood will build a Minitor competitor one day...


The new Relm/BK branded radios (RP 3000/3600) have the equivalent of a Minitor pager built right into the radio.

Here is the link:

http://www.relm.com/spec_sheets/RP3000.pdf

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Postby tvsjr » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:15 pm

kmoose wrote:The new Relm/BK branded radios (RP 3000/3600) have the equivalent of a Minitor pager built right into the radio.


No good (despite the fact that Relms are pieces of :o).

Repeat after me: A radio is NOT a pager. A radio is NOT a pager.

Radios have short battery life, can be bumped of channel, break easier, etc. A pager should be virtually idiot-proof, whereas a radio might not be.

I want Kenwood to build a Minitor clone... most of their radios already have two-tone decode capabilities.

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Postby DJP126 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:59 am

bcooper wrote:Is there any word on what the status of this is? Will there be a fix soon?


THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ANSWER, just a best guess. Since the amplified charger has an UL approval, any changes to that amp would have to go back to UL for re-approval. Don't expect the replacements available real soon. UL takes their sweet time on testing anything and everything.
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Minitor V Amplified Charger Update 6/8/06

Postby MOTO_LR » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:44 am

The following was posted on MOL today.
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Service & Repair Notes (SRN)
Bulletin
Technical Information
Networks and Enterprise Business
1301 E. Algonquin Road
Schaumburg, IL. 60196

SRN: 1512B
APC: 136
December 2005
Expires: 31-Dec-06

This bulletin supersedes SRN 1512A.

From: Paging Products Group

SUBJECT: Minitor V Charger Amplifier Related Battery or Pager Failures

SYSTEMS AFFECTED:
Minitor V pagers and batteries when using a Charger Amplifier

MODELS & OPTIONS AFFECTED:
All Minitor V pagers and batteries when using a Charger Amplifier

SYMPTOM:
Battery will not charge or battery / pager appears to be dead after charging in a charger amplifier

CAUSE:
It has been determined that Minitor V batteries, RLN5707A, with a date code prior to 632, when used in conjunction
with the RLN5704A, RLN5705A, RLN5706A or RLN5869A, Charger Amplifier, may have an internal fuse in the battery
that may open or short causing the pager to appear to be dead after charging. The date code is located above the
label on the right hand side.

Resolution:
Changes in the battery manufacturing process have been implemented to address the fuse shorting or opening.

In a previous version of this SRN, it was recommended that the immediate discontinuation of the use of the charger
amplifier because it was determined that the use of the battery and charger amplifier combination was causing the
issue. With the root cause listed above, the use of existing charger amplifiers, still in the field, is now acceptable.

Should a battery that, when charged in the charger amplifier, exhibits the symptom outlined above, a replacement
battery will correct the problem. Please contact Motorola parts department at 1-800-422-4210 to obtain replacement
batteries. Please reference “SRN1512B” when placing the order, to insure processing as a warranty replacement
order.

If any additional questions, please contact Motorola TSO Post Sales subscriber support at 1-800-927-2744

No labor warranty is implied, intended or authorized.

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Postby MassFD » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:49 pm

That's great :cry:

They have totaly avoided the audio buzz after the pager and battery are completly charged and the feedback on the UHF pagers when the amp volume is more than 1/4.

Both these issues where discussed with a Motorola rep at the fire convention in indy a few months ago, now it's ok to use the only slightly defective amps.

Sure glad they got the guys card, guess he will be geting a call next week.
Cause Motorola said so that's why


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