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New APX 7500 Control Heads

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New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby wd9cms » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:16 pm

Looks like two new control heads available for the APX7500

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They look great.....

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby batdude » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:18 pm

HOLY BATSHIT

IS THAT A SPEAKER INTEGRATED INTO A HIGH TIER MOBILE?


must have been an earthquake in hell.



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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby caprice96 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:20 am

^^like (both the original post and batdudes comment), maybe this means december 21st is the end of the world after all

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby JeffFireRadio » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:52 am

Wow! Great job, Moto. Did you bring Mr. Galvin back into the company while I was sleeping? Looking very forward to this product line. Keep 'em coming.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby The Pager Geek » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:07 am

batdude wrote:HOLY BATSHIT

IS THAT A SPEAKER INTEGRATED INTO A HIGH TIER MOBILE?


must have been an earthquake in hell.



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It's the O2... to replace the XTL1500, yet ruggedized.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby alex » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:15 am

XTS/XTL cancellation in 5...4....3....................
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby K8TEK » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:05 am

alex wrote:XTS/XTL cancellation in 5...4....3....................

Good, the XTLs are garbage.
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby Jim202 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:39 am

K8TEK wrote:
alex wrote:XTS/XTL cancellation in 5...4....3....................

Good, the XTLs are garbage.



What are you basing your un biased comment on?

What radio do you believe is better?

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby K8TEK » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:42 pm

Jim202 wrote:
K8TEK wrote:
alex wrote:XTS/XTL cancellation in 5...4....3....................

Good, the XTLs are garbage.



What are you basing your un biased comment on?

What radio do you believe is better?

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby motorola_otaku » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:22 am

Sorry, but the green ruggedized head looks goofy to me. Would make a nice remote head option for fire truck pump panels though.

The black head with the full keypad, otoh, is 8)
Wonder if it'll support FPP?
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby Jim202 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:38 am

K8TEK wrote:
alex wrote:XTS/XTL cancellation in 5...4....3....................

Good, the XTLs are garbage.



The olny real issue that bugs me on the XTL radios is the dumb :o programmers took away what was a good feature using the mulit PL settings. Sure it is there on the XTL radios, but doesn't work like it use to. You could program a button on the head for multi Pl and have up to 16 tones to pick from on what ever channel you were on. That feature is long gone with the XTL.

Then the default squelch setting on the XTL radios is set way too high. So if you look long enough you can find where it is set in the XTL. Plus if you set up one of the control head buttons, you can adjust the squelch right from the control head if needed for the channel your on.

The XTL allows you to have up to 4 control heads on a radio. You don't have to have a special head for operation in the rear or use a special control cable.

But each to their own feelings.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby resqguy911 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:35 pm

motorola_otaku wrote:Sorry, but the green ruggedized head looks goofy to me. Would make a nice remote head option for fire truck pump panels though.

The black head with the full keypad, otoh, is 8)
Wonder if it'll support FPP?


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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby mikegilbert » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:50 pm

I can definitely imagine those O2 heads in plenty of Sheriff/Police marine units. Wonder if they'll be remote mountable though.
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby willbird287 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:16 am

mikegilbert wrote:I can definitely imagine those O2 heads in plenty of Sheriff/Police marine units. Wonder if they'll be remote mountable though.


Straight from the updated control head comparison PDF:
" *Remote mount for O2 will not be available until 2013 "

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby rc50won » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:01 am

Things are changing a little at /\/\.

My SL7550 TRBO programs with a $5 off the shelf micro USB cable and uses a standard BT90 cell phone battery (also $5 on Amazon). Just to mess it up a little, non Motorola micro USB chargers give you an on the screen error that they are not compatible. The Motorola charger is $15 though.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby dsheli » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:54 am

K8TEK wrote:
alex wrote:XTS/XTL cancellation in 5...4....3....................

Good, the XTLs are garbage.


Agreed! I cringe every time I see agencies buying a XTS/XTL, it's decade old legacy equipment.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby WB4JGI » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:12 am

Agreed! I cringe every time I see agencies buying a XTS/XTL, it's decade old legacy equipment.


I see the same thing here and can't wait until the Astro 25 line is ousted and the APX line comes in to take over. It seems Motorola is geared to kill off Astro 25 subscribers maybe this year. I can only hope though.
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby dsheli » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:30 pm

WB4JGI,

If I remember correct don't y'all have a P25 TDMA system in Chattanooga/North Georgia?
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby WB4JGI » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:30 pm

It is capable of Phase 2 but the license key hasn't been entered in the system yet. So we can't experiment with it right now. Hopefully that will change, sometime this year, once the license key is entered. I wanna test me out some Phase 2 with crypto.
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby willbird287 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:37 am

Getting back on topic here...

Just got word that the new O2 and O7 control heads won't be available until about June this year. I'm not sure why the O2 will require until 2013 to be remote capable, but I would guess there are redesigns or testing that needs to be down regarding the ruggedness of the current CHIB design.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby Jim202 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:26 am

dsheli wrote:
K8TEK wrote:
alex wrote:XTS/XTL cancellation in 5...4....3....................

Good, the XTLs are garbage.


Agreed! I cringe every time I see agencies buying a XTS/XTL, it's decade old legacy equipment.


Guess you guys haven't got heavy into the APX series radios yet. The software is about the worst I have ever seen Motorola come out with. Time will tell how the techs like the radio itself. If history is anything like what Motorola has done to it's customers in the past, your in for the ride of your life. Upgrade after upgrade to get all the bugs out. They have figured out it is cheaper for the customer to debug a radio than spend engineering time doing it.

I still haven't seen Motorola fix a simple tone squelch problem on talk around in the analog mode. If you don't tone squelch the RX, you can't use a TX PL tone on simplex. Was a complaint on the XTL radios and the APX software is the same. In other words if you try setting the RX to carrier squelch, the software won't let you encode a PL on TX in the talk around mode. Hint hint, you should be setting the radio this way to use the "National Interoperability" frequencies. Guess Motorola is not much of a supporter of this type of radio use.

You might not think the XTL radios were so bad after about 6 months or so with the APX units. Only time will tell. The bookies are laying on the XTL as the better radio at this point.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby Pj » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:18 pm

Any word on the pricing of the new O heads as of yet?

Jim, I loaded up a CP for my 7000, and it lets me enter TX, CSQ, RX Pl, and TX Pl, RX CSQ without a problem..so might be something else that is screwing with yours. CPS/FW 7.
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby willbird287 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:40 pm

Pj wrote:Any word on the pricing of the new O heads as of yet?


When I called for at least a part number for the new heads, they had no clue, "are you sure you don't mean the O5 head? I know there is an O5, O9 and O3 available". I had to reference their own literature which they then looked up and confirmed with me "does indeed show an O2 and O7 control head". After about 10 minutes of more digging all they could tell me is there is no part number yet and no price yet. They essentially don't "exist" (in the available to purchase sense) and won't exist until about June...

Maybe they're trying to hype up potential buyers looking to replace equipment for last minute narrow banding? We all know that that effort can stand to wait a few more months anyway - right? :lol:

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby d119 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:39 pm

Pj wrote:Any word on the pricing of the new O heads as of yet?

Jim, I loaded up a CP for my 7000, and it lets me enter TX, CSQ, RX Pl, and TX Pl, RX CSQ without a problem..so might be something else that is screwing with yours. CPS/FW 7.


PJ,

I think he's referring to the mode the radio is put in when it's on a repeater mode and the Talkaround switch/button is actuated. That type of operation cannot be configured with a TX PL unless the RX side of it has one.

Seems to me you can enable "Direct Frequency Enable" or something in the CPS to allow this to work... It lets you put anything you want as the TX Frequency/PL. I could be wrong.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby Pj » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:16 pm

Ah yeah... I remember running into that with the XTS and/or XTL. Will have to look into that myself. Some things with the ASTRO line was nice to have... CPS and otherwise (after reprogramming two ASpectras the last couple of days...)
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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby ASTROMODAT » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:25 pm

Anyone heard if Mother M will make an 03 that is ruggedized/waterproof?

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby escomm » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:53 am

FYI, all the O5 heads have been subbed over to PHCN4000A, which is the "new" APX O5. Black faceplate and slick looks. Oh yeah, the new part number is about $100 more than the old one as well.

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Re: New APX 7500 Control Heads

Postby ASTROMODAT » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:17 am

Looks like the 07 w/ its integrated spkr will save room in the cockpit, especially if it can be remoted. Hopefully someone on the board will go for a test ride when it's available, and let us know how its sound quality compares to the HSN4031. Probably an unfair comparison, but the APX7000 sounds good for its spkrs size, so who knows? Now, if they could just get BOSE to design the speaker...

BTW, I assume the LEFT/RIGHT navigation buttons on the 07 are the big black bars at the far edges of the CH (as opposed to the 4-way nav buttons on the 02)?


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