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EF Johnson System Key

Postby mhodgson » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:43 am

I have recently bought a couple of the EF Johnson Digital SmartZone 5100 portables to check out on our state Motorola 4.1SZ system. I have however apparently run into an issue in that the EFJ software does not recognize the Motorola system keys. We have about 25 separate keys that have been provided by local system owners in addition to our own two keys. Can anyone shed any insight if there is a way to convert the Motorola key file into one that the EFJ program will recognize.

Any help appreciated. Reply to the list or email directly to: mailto:mhodgson@ncshp.org

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Postby wavetar » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:54 pm

I cannot offer any help on conversion, but I would ask the system administrator for help on this one. If they wish to allow EFJ radios onto the system, they should ask EFJ for the system key. If EFJ wants to sell radios, they shouldn't have any problems with supplying a system key to the administrator for testing, loading, whatever.

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Postby Pj » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:56 pm

You also may want to try the 161.net website/fourm found below in my signature line. I have always been curious on how OTM radios were able to get onto the M systems..
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Postby 10-95 » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:58 pm

wavetar wrote:I cannot offer any help on conversion, but I would ask the system administrator for help on this one. If they wish to allow EFJ radios onto the system, they should ask EFJ for the system key. If EFJ wants to sell radios, they shouldn't have any problems with supplying a system key to the administrator for testing, loading, whatever.

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That's what I was thinking. He should contact the Johnson representitive that he purchased the radios from for some customer support. I would think that everything needed would be included in the programming package included with the radio(s) he purchased from johnson, then again maybe only Johnson can produce the key for the radio.

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Johnson System Key

Postby mhodgson » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:08 pm

Indeed all of your comments are good, here is some more info:

I am this system administrator so can get EFJ to send me a key for MY two systems, however in NC we have a state/local group refered to as NCSUN that is our local MTUG chapter and we share keys. Technically I cannot ask them to make keys for someone elses system. We bought these two radios to go ahead and determine compatibity with the Motorola system so as to be ready to approve or disapprove users requests to use the equipment. I was curious to see if anyone had figured out how to drag the Motorola keys over.

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Re: Johnson System Key

Postby 10-95 » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:12 pm

mhodgson wrote:Indeed all of your comments are good, here is some more info:

I am this system administrator so can get EFJ to send me a key for MY two systems, however in NC we have a state/local group refered to as NCSUN that is our local MTUG chapter and we share keys. Technically I cannot ask them to make keys for someone elses system. We bought these two radios to go ahead and determine compatibity with the Motorola system so as to be ready to approve or disapprove users requests to use the equipment. I was curious to see if anyone had figured out how to drag the Motorola keys over.

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Oh course the system administrator of the system you want keys for CAN send a request to EFJ for keys and can provide documentation that they want you on the system.

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Postby carbineone » Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:52 pm

E-mail EF Johnson and they will e-mail you a request for system key form
to be filled out by system administrator. After they verify they will e-mail you the key.

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Re: Johnson System Key

Postby wavetar » Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:55 pm

mhodgson wrote:Indeed all of your comments are good, here is some more info:

I am this system administrator so can get EFJ to send me a key for MY two systems, however in NC we have a state/local group refered to as NCSUN that is our local MTUG chapter and we share keys. Technically I cannot ask them to make keys for someone elses system. We bought these two radios to go ahead and determine compatibity with the Motorola system so as to be ready to approve or disapprove users requests to use the equipment. I was curious to see if anyone had figured out how to drag the Motorola keys over.

Mike


Yep, I'd say get some official NCSUN letterhead to EFJ to obtain the keys you require. I've never seen an EFJ key, so I couldn't even tell you how similar or different they might appear. I don't recall anyone else posting ANY info on them, let alone how to convert them. If someone knows, perhaps they'll get a hold of you, but I think you'll have better luck going the 'official' route in this case.

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EF Johnson System Key

Postby MtComm » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:29 pm

I am the EFJ dealer in the Washington, D.C. area. The EFJ Sytem keys are totally different from the Moto Keys and there is no conversion. EFJ has a form that you have to have the sytems manager for the system you want keys for complete and sign. I can send you the form since it is in Word. Your dealer or Sales rep should have worked with you to get the keys. Retlative to all of the other systems that you don't own, you might try writing a letter or e-mail to Larry Noss at EFJ and attach MOU's for the
other systems that you are authorized to operate on. Contact me by
e-mail and I will try to help you.


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