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Astro 25 CPS R09.00.00 is out

Postby Mfire39 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:08 am

From the read me file:

NOTE: Firmware version R09.00.00 or greater is required for the
following features:

-POP25 - OTAP (Programming Over Project 25)

-TMS (Text Messaging Service)

-DVRS Phase II

-3600 Analog Trunking PTT-ID Display

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Postby N4DES » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:38 am

Lets see if this works as advertised..my guess is it won't. j/k

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Postby GEMOTO » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:59 pm

Code: Select all

TMS (Text Messaging Service)


Is this a trunking or conventional feature?

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Postby batdude » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:06 pm

no one knows.

the firmware isn't out yet... at least not to anyone that i know.





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Re: Astro 25 CPS R09.00.00 is out

Postby tvsjr » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:28 pm

Mfire39 wrote: -TMS (Text Messaging Service)


OMGWTF! I CN SND SMS FROM MY XTS5000? THTS SO 1337! :P

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Postby batdude » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:08 pm

can you imagine some kind of gateway that will allow TMS (the rest of the worlds TMS...) interface with a public safety radio system?




BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



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ASTRO25 tools

Postby radioinstl » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:53 pm

also after working with people from the big M we have gotten ASTRO25 Tools working again with the 9.0 release

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Postby N4DES » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:46 pm

batdude wrote:can you imagine some kind of gateway that will allow TMS (the rest of the worlds TMS...) interface with a public safety radio system?
BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
doug


At that point there would be no need for NEXTHELL..lol

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Postby txshooter » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:25 pm

KS4VT wrote:At that point there would be no need for NEXTHELL..lol


Do you really want to carry a XTS around with you all of the time.....

Not me!

I would much prefer when not working to have the ability to just have a cell phone with me at times. While I may have a portable in the car, I am not going walking through the mall with a radio on my hip if I don't need to have it......
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Postby fire_master_21 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:48 pm

KS4VT wrote:
batdude wrote:can you imagine some kind of gateway that will allow TMS (the rest of the worlds TMS...) interface with a public safety radio system?
BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
doug


At that point there would be no need for NEXTHELL..lol


then you will have the 15 year old wackers trying to tell everyone that they are a cop or a firefighter to impress their buddies.
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Postby tvsjr » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:12 pm

batdude wrote:can you imagine some kind of gateway that will allow TMS (the rest of the worlds TMS...) interface with a public safety radio system?


FROM: 2024561414
TO: Deputy Fife

OMG U R A GIANT PIG! GO EAT UR DONUTZ, PIGGIE! OINK!

txshooter wrote:Do you really want to carry a XTS around with you all of the time.....

I wear mine on my belt almost all the time... no tremendously big deal.

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Postby DES-AJ » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:26 pm

If it's a big deal buy an XTS2500. :)

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Re: ...

Postby HumHead » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:54 pm

tvsjr wrote:FROM: 2024561414


:lol:

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Postby Rayjk110 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:29 pm

Wait untill someone sends these:


FAILSOFT

FAIL 01/90

KEYFAIL


hah hah

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Postby mr.syntrx » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:18 pm

FAIL 01/90 is the startup message on my V3X fone :D

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heh

Postby High_order1 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:27 pm

I caused several people to pay large amounts of money buying batteries with the alpha pager system...

>LOW BATTERY


lol


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Re: ...

Postby txshooter » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:40 pm

tvsjr[quote="txshooter wrote:Do you really want to carry a XTS around with you all of the time.....

I wear mine on my belt almost all the time... no tremendously big deal.[/quote]

My point simply is there are a ton of people who would rather carry a small cell phone with them all of the time that a two way radio with them all of the time. Sorry, I just don't wear a radio on my hip 24/7. When works over.....radio is on the desk. I may have it out for some casual conversation with a few others from time to time and yes, I do always keep one in the POV for emergencies. No way would I have one with me all of the time.....

No reason to, I especially don't want people to be able to identify me as a possible authority figure all of the time. Everyone has a cell phone. See someone with a XTS radio on you automatically think Police, Fire, EMS or some other public group. Yes, I know lots of these radio are privately owned, but I choose not to have one on all of the time.


HumHead wrote:
tvsjr wrote:FROM: 2024561414


:lol:


Took a second...... :lol:
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Postby bellersley » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:51 pm

Rayjk110 wrote:Wait untill someone sends these:


FAILSOFT

FAIL 01/90

KEYFAIL


hah hah


My Astro SoftID on my Saber is FAIL 01/92. It makes people nervous sometimes :)

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Postby tvsjr » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:24 pm

Humhead wins the thread. I was going to use something a little more challenging, but figured it wouldn't be sporting.

Good to see that at least a few of you aren't giant 'tards.

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Postby MattSR » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:40 pm

bellersley wrote:
Rayjk110 wrote:Wait untill someone sends these:


FAILSOFT

FAIL 01/90

KEYFAIL


hah hah


My Astro SoftID on my Saber is FAIL 01/92. It makes people nervous sometimes :)


Errr, I think you are fibbing - how do you get more than 8 characters into your Soft ID field?

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Postby bellersley » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:52 pm

Simple, it's actually FL 01/92. But, you get the idea. I think a softID can be more than 8 digits, can it not? The display is something like 14 characters so it's certainly capable of it.

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Postby DES-AJ » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:02 am

mr.syntrx wrote:FAIL 01/90 is the startup message on my V3X fone :D


HAHA I'm gonna do that on my V3i now! :lol:

And no Soft ID cannot be more than 8 chars long... Unless of cause you have Q675 - Enhanced Soft ID coverage 8)

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Postby 5-sides » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:17 am

Heard a rumor from a reliable source that late '07 Big M plans to release flash upgrades that will allow omni-link between discrete P25 trunking systems, as well as accept any NAC, not just those within 8 of the system #.
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Postby MikeOxlong » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:26 pm

I use all spaces as my softid.

Real interesting when talking with someone who has an astro spectra and they see their display go blank!

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Postby alex » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:33 pm

MikeOxlong wrote:I use all spaces as my softid.

Real interesting when talking with someone who has an astro spectra and they see their display go blank!



Oooh.... I like it...

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Postby DES-AJ » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:48 pm

Yeah a mate and I were playing with our radios one day and we couldn't work out why our Digital ID's would not come up and why our displays would go blank... Turns out soft id was enabled but we hadn't set an ID up in CPS. :lol:
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Postby Hightower » Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:32 am

Does this mean the "computer" key will finally work :lol:

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Postby MattSR » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:19 am

DES-AJ wrote:Yeah a mate and I were playing with our radios one day and we couldn't work out why our Digital ID's would not come up and why our displays would go blank... Turns out soft id was enabled but we hadn't set an ID up in CPS. :lol:


How long did that take me to figure out lol

I even tried aligning the radios until it dawned on me... well... DUH!!!!

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Postby bellersley » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:31 am

MikeOxlong wrote:I use all spaces as my softid.

Real interesting when talking with someone who has an astro spectra and they see their display go blank!


Interesting idea. I didn't think that would work. Something to try at the shop tomorrow!

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Postby N4DES » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:26 am

Marc,

Did you get the latest version off of MOL or was it a shipped CD?

Mark

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Postby MikeOxlong » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:40 am

It's up on MOL.

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Postby N4DES » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:01 am

Ummm..I know my subscription is still good and it's not showing up.
I guess I need to make a call.

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Re: ...

Postby Rayjk110 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:44 pm

HumHead wrote:
tvsjr wrote:FROM: 2024561414


:lol:


What?

I'm lost :-?

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Re: ...

Postby akardam » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:08 pm

Rayjk110 wrote:
HumHead wrote:
tvsjr wrote:FROM: 2024561414


:lol:


What?

I'm lost :-?

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Postby tvsjr » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:10 pm

Rayjk110 wrote:
HumHead wrote:
tvsjr wrote:FROM: 2024561414


:lol:


What?

I'm lost :-?

Click here, Ray.

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Postby Bruce1807 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:04 am

I think its a 7.x smartzone feature.
From the last MTUG it will let radio to radio and dispatcher to radio send SMS messages.
It's good for an adreess or phone number etc or something confidential to an officer. Much quicker and less resources than private call

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Postby motorola_otaku » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:58 pm

Bruce1807 wrote:I think its a 7.x smartzone feature.
From the last MTUG it will let radio to radio and dispatcher to radio send SMS messages.
It's good for an address or phone number etc or something confidential to an officer. Much quicker and less resources than private call

I see hilarious results from this, based on officers thinking they have a new form of secure communication and the next line of scanners coming with a decode feature.

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Postby phrawg » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:45 pm

I can see it now "self destruct initiated.. . . . ...." :P :P :lol:
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9.0

Postby Firebuff66 » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:02 pm

I just got CPS 9.0 and upgraded to Host 09.00.00 and DSP 09.00.01
Im just starting to play with the new things but havent got to much yet...
The neat thing i see is it allows for 4 remote heads for the XTL5000 daisy chaned together

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Postby Bruce1807 » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:39 pm

SMS is a 7.2 feature and im sure it will have its uses
6871004P64-A, Text Messaging Services - Infrastructure
6871004P72, ASTRO® 25 Text Messaging Services Server Software Installation
6871004P76, ASTRO® 25 Text Messaging Services Fixed Messaging Client Installation Guide

These are the manual part numbers

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Postby batdude » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:52 am

played with it for about 20 mins last night.

a little on the complicated side.

two types of messages (quick) and stored.

can be edited on a per transmission basis

requires IP stuff to be set up in CPS

will work radio to radio w/o infrastructure support

will work direct or repeated (also set up in CPS)


more to follow


and yes, the computer key is now functional




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Postby RocketNJ » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:53 am

Hey Doug,

Can you check Soft ID with CPS9 and firmware 9?

Looks like they added ARS login field in the radiowide/general tab. From what I see the ARS login is also the Soft ID. On our radios the ARS login is checked but greyed out. I think you need the packet data option to edit it.

Thanks

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Postby akardam » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:15 am

Soft ID, if the radio is option capable, should be under Astro Systems>Astro Configuration>Soft ID, not Radio Wide>General...

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Postby RocketNJ » Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:09 pm

Yes, pre- CPS 9.0. Try the new CPS. The Soft ID checkbox is selectable but the name field is greyed out. When putting the ? cursor over it , it states Soft ID uses the ARS login username.


akardam wrote:Soft ID, if the radio is option capable, should be under Astro Systems>Astro Configuration>Soft ID, not Radio Wide>General...

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Postby Bruce1807 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:38 am

ASTRO SPECTRA Plus/XTS5000, 2500, 1500/MT1500/XTL5000, 2500, 1500
New Version: R09.00.00
Old Version: R08.00.00
RSS Version: R09.00.00
Upgrade Model: N/A
New Feature
Abstract: Addition of POP 25 feature to enable over-the-air codeplug programming.
System Platforms Affected: ASTRO 25 6.9
Special Configurations: POP25 is supported in the following subscribers: XTS 5000, XTS 2500 portables, XTL
5000,XTL 2500 mobiles
Description: Programming Over Project 25 (POP25) is a new Motorola feature that allows the subscriber radio
configuration to be accessed and updated over the air via the ASTRO 25 Integrated Voice and Data (IV&D)
trunked system. Utilizing the Customer Programming Software (CPS), POP25 provides access to all
configuration parameters programmable through the traditional programming software, excluding FLASH port
or subscriber tuning functions.

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Postby nickburns186 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:37 pm

OTAP is what we've all been waiting for forever. Watch the tutorial video, its even better. Bad thing is, those of you without trunked systems are out of luck for now and those of us with trunked systems are looking at more money to use the feature. Just how much remains to been seen. I could be wrong and it could be capable already but just as with the text messaging service, not too much documentation out yet. I do look forward to the day I can program a radio or radios without having to leave my seat :)

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Postby alex » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:12 pm

There's a sticky in the astro forum about setting up off network text messaging. Probably stands as the only documentation about how to setup and configure that off network.

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Postby nickburns186 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:25 pm

My guess as well but it does reference an ARS in the tutorial.

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Postby radiokid » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:00 pm

I just got my first version 9 radio back from the depot and the ID display does work on a 3600 baud trunking analog talkgroup now like it did on on the P25 Talkgroups.

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