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XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby ds49 » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:33 am

Does anyone know if the XTS2500 is a better model then XTS-3000,3500,5000 series?


Thanks

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby batdude » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:35 am

the 2500 is a newer model.

it has an much improved processor and DSP in it.

the 3000 is no longer made...

the 3000/5000 have readily available encryption modules available....in the used market.

i've NEVER seen a "used" XTS2500 secure board... EVER.... the only route is to buy the board new from motorola.


so if you need encyrption... and don't want to pay moto $700.... go with the 3000/5000.

if you don't forsee any need for secure - go with the 2500... smaller radio too.


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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby ds49 » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:38 am

Thank you

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby DES-AJ » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:10 pm

So far I use my XTS3000's for encryption and my 2500I when I don't need secure... After opening an XTS2500I up I'm not even sure you can put an encryption board in the thing.. Unless it's a surface mount chip? :o
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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby CTAMontrose » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:02 am

The 2500i does support OFB/XL, we just unleashed some model 1.5s in the fleet with enc

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby N4DES » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:08 am

There used to be a sticky that had a list of the xts2500 encryption board model #'s.
The 2500 boards are unique to each model (1, 1.5, 2, & 3) and we did some 2's and 3's
over the past few months.

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby DES-AJ » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:40 pm

I would love to know where it goes - Time to order the service manuel for the XTS2500I Model 3 - Anyone have the part number for the XTS2500I SM?

I have the part # for the 2500 just not the I version and I would assume they are different.
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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby Bruce1807 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:28 am

6881094C09-C - ASTRO XTS2500/XTS2250/XTS1500/MT1500/PR1500 Basic Service Manual (03 Apr 2006)
6881094C10-B; ASTRO XTS 2500 Detailed Service Manual (15 Feb 2005)
6816984H01-A Astro XTS2500/XTS2500I/XTS2250/XTS1500/MT1500/PR1500 Portable Radios Basic Service Manual (19 Jun 2006)


or elctronic versions

MANUAL CD SERVICE ENGLISH XTS 1500, 2500, AND MT 1500 9985899D01
XTS2500, XTS1500, MT1500 BASIC SERVICE MANUAL PAPER

MANUAL CD SERVICE AND THEORY ENGLISH XTS 1500, 2500, AND MT 1500 9985900D01XTS2500, XTS1500, MT1500 BASIC SERVICE MANUAL PAPER

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby Pj » Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:10 pm

The part numbers are in the old Knowledge Base that we are trying to transfer over. If someone really needs them, I'll try to copy/paste them over.
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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby Connor926 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:58 am

I've carried both the 2500 and the 3000 on duty and I like the 2500 much better, lighter more reliable, seems to eat less batteri power, fits in my gear easier. The 3000s were like carrying a large brick plus I dont beleive the 3000s had the 700/800 option I think they were 800 only so it was easier to reflash the 2500s with the reband at dispatch

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby N4DES » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:12 am

Connor926 wrote:I've carried both the 2500 and the 3000 on duty and I like the 2500 much better, lighter more reliable, seems to eat less batteri power, fits in my gear easier. The 3000s were like carrying a large brick plus I dont beleive the 3000s had the 700/800 option I think they were 800 only


yes...yes...and yes....the 3000 is not 700/800 but the 2500 is.

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby MattSR » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:27 pm

I thought Host firmware 7.70 was for rebanding? Or is 7/800 and rebanding two different things? (please forgive my ignorance - we don't have issues such as 7/800 down here in Oz)

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby Connor926 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:36 pm

MattSR wrote:I thought Host firmware 7.70 was for rebanding? Or is 7/800 and rebanding two different things? (please forgive my ignorance - we don't have issues such as 7/800 down here in Oz)

I'm pretty sure its two different things you're talking about

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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby mike m » Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:33 am

Rebanding:
Stolen from this web page> http://www.800mhzrebanding.com/

The FCC order is designed to “reshuffle the deck” to prevent interference from occurring, so many licensees nationwide will have to move. If you operate in the current NPSPAC band (866-869/821-824 MHz) will be required to move “down” 15 MHz, and every licensee in the first 150 channels of the General Category Pool (851-853.9875/806-808.9875 MHz) will move “up” to the “middle” bands (854.0125-861.9875/809.0125-816.9875 MHz) to clear the way for public safety licensees. Licensees in the “middle” bands can stay where they are. Please note that the rebanding plan for the Canadian and Mexican Border Regions has not yet been negotiated with the respective neighboring governments. Click here to find out more about the new 800 MHz band plan.


The 700/800 band plan opened up new allocations in the 700 MHz range as a result of the above interference.

Unfortunately because of the design of the XT3Ks VCO, it cannot do 700 MHz but it is 800 MHz rebanding capable.



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Re: XTS2500-XTS3000

Postby RocketNJ » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:38 am

I field retro'ed a bunch of 2500s to encryption. The keyboard circuit board needs to be changed to a new one which has the encryption surface mounted on the board. The spring clips holding in the keyboard module are a :o to get back in.


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