Type II Trunking

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Einstein
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Type II Trunking

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I have a XTS 2500 on a 9600 baud system, flashcode 500008-000488-0. Would like to put this unit also on a 3600 baud system also, but the software won't allow type II System info only ASTRO 25. The 5000's will do both systems with the same flash, any info on this. Is this common with the 2500's. Host/DSP 08.xx.xx
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Re: Type II Trunking

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Ok I see my mistake 500008-000488-0 compaired to 500008-000482-0 on the 5000
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Re: Type II Trunking

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I believe the XTS2500 is either/or...it cannot have both 3600 & 9600 capability in the radio at the same time.
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Re: Type II Trunking

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When the 2500 was introduced you had to choose 3600 or 9600.

Subsequently they added a flash option so the radio will do both.
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Re: Type II Trunking

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this may be a dumb question on an old post , but after using the search function and wanting to learn more about the 2500 , I recently aquired one, So if program a 9600 baud system can I still program in a 3600 baud system and still listen to both of them?

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NOT 9600 BUAD!

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Once again people:

APCO-25 CAI is 4800 BAUD.

NOT 9600 BAUD.

BAUD means "symbols per second" NOT BITS PER SECOND.

APCO-25 uses a 4 level signaling system, so the bit rate is twice the symbol rate (NOT BAUD RATE. "baud rate" would be "symbols per second per second".)

Either call it 9600 bps, or 4800 baud, or better still, call it "APCO-25 trunking".
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Re: Type II Trunking

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If you have a xts2500, and you have Apco 25 trunking (4800 baud;9600Bps) You can do both Motorola Smartnet/Smartzone 3600 trunking, and 9600 Apco 25 trunking BUT you MUST have "Q883 3600/9600 INTEROPERABILITY" and "Q574 SOFTWARE TRUNKING 9600 BAUD" (Don't kill me Wowbagger! Thats a direct quote from Motorola's E-Catalog.) in your Flashcode.
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Re: Type II Trunking

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500008-00148C-5

Q806 ASTRO Digital Operation
H14 Enhanced Digital ID Display
H38 SMARTZONE Systems Operation
Q947 APCO Packet Data Interface
Q173 SMARTZONE OMNILINK Multizone Operation
Q361 ASTRO 25 9600 Baud Trunking
Q667 ADP Encryption Software DSP Based Only
Q574 9600 Baud Trunking


so im gathering this is a no go.
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Re: Type II Trunking

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Correct, on a 2500 with that flash you cannot do 3600 trunking. If you had a 5000 it would be good, awful nice of Motorola huh?
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Re: Type II Trunking

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oh well at least i can listen to at least one system ...

Thanks for the info, looks like ill be getting my flash updated.

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Re: NOT 9600 BUAD!

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Wowbagger wrote:Once again people:

APCO-25 CAI is 4800 BAUD.

NOT 9600 BAUD.

BAUD means "symbols per second" NOT BITS PER SECOND.

APCO-25 uses a 4 level signaling system, so the bit rate is twice the symbol rate (NOT BAUD RATE. "baud rate" would be "symbols per second per second".)

Either call it 9600 bps, or 4800 baud, or better still, call it "APCO-25 trunking".
You're on a losing crusade. When Motorola themselves calls it 9600 BAUD, then people are going to post it as such. For Christ's sake, many people spell it SABRE, when every radio out there says SABER...we all know it's a radio, not a sword, and we all know what is meant when people ask about 9600 BAUD systems. Pull your relief valve, and have a beer. :lol:
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Re: NOT 9600 BUAD!

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wavetar wrote:
Wowbagger wrote:Once again people:

APCO-25 CAI is 4800 BAUD.

NOT 9600 BAUD.

BAUD means "symbols per second" NOT BITS PER SECOND.

APCO-25 uses a 4 level signaling system, so the bit rate is twice the symbol rate (NOT BAUD RATE. "baud rate" would be "symbols per second per second".)

Either call it 9600 bps, or 4800 baud, or better still, call it "APCO-25 trunking".
You're on a losing crusade. When Motorola themselves calls it 9600 BAUD, then people are going to post it as such. For Christ's sake, many people spell it SABRE, when every radio out there says SABER...we all know it's a radio, not a sword, and we all know what is meant when people ask about 9600 BAUD systems. Pull your relief valve, and have a beer. :lol:
and saber can be used as a sabre though :D
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