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2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:32 am
by fineshot1
Anyone have experience with this feature in the new fusions?
Ignition voltage follows this feature - when the engine auto shutdowns
to save gas the ignition shuts down the installed APX radios. Looking
to find if there is another ignition usable for two way radio ignition
that does not follow auto shutdown. I tried calling ford cust svc but
they are a bunch of monkey key clickers that know nothing.

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:07 am
by jpu535
I personally have no experience with the auto shut down feature but I will say I have a cousin that bought a new F150 that has that feature and he said he was able to turn it off so you might want to check to see if there is a user setting in the configuration somewhere to do that.

Absent that then I would use a Lind shutdown timer and just connect all the radio power to the battery and run the ignition sense lead to the timer. I believe the shortest duration on those timers though is 12 minutes. I'm not promoting Lind but I'm sure there are other devices out there that do the same thing.

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:57 am
by fineshot1
jpu535 wrote:I have a cousin that bought a new F150 that has that feature and he said he was able to turn it off so you might want to check to see if there is a user setting in the configuration somewhere to do that.
i already consulted the Fusions owners manual and per that doc you can not turn this feature off
hence my question to the batboard.

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:44 am
by wd9cms
You can eliminate the auto shut off with something like this:

https://www.autostopeliminator.com/coll ... eliminator

This may keep the APX powered up all the time but you lose the gas saving.

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:37 am
by jhooten
Look at page 154 in the manual.
“Press the Auto-Start-Stop button located on the center console to switch the system off.
The button will illuminate. The system will only be deactivated for the current ignition cycle. Press the button again to restore Auto-Start-Stop function.”

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:34 am
by fineshot1
jhooten wrote:Look at page 154 in the manual.
“Press the Auto-Start-Stop button located on the center console to switch the system off.
The button will illuminate. The system will only be deactivated for the current ignition cycle. Press the button again to restore Auto-Start-Stop function.”
This is virtually useless to a police org that are in/out of the vehicle
at a prolific rate so i dismissed it as the BS it truelly is and no one
will be worried about gas savings. I will have to look into the eliminator.
NOTE: There are complaints about this feature with no means of turning
it off permanently by the customers.

Thanks to anyone who responded.

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:01 am
by jhooten
Look at any accessory that stays on during the stop start cycles and find the fuse for one of them and tap it. Still have to have the “key” to power the radio. Unless you just don’t want the radio on when the engine is not running.

For the record the shop I deal with does not have a copy Fusion upfitters manual.

One reason the manufacturers don’t give you an option to disable it is because it is a key feature in the mandated economy calculations. If they give you a way to disable it, you do, then try to sue when you don’t get the mileage they said you would.

I have to ask, is this a police package, a fleet, or consumer car being upfitted?

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm
by fineshot1
jhooten wrote:Look at any accessory that stays on during the stop start cycles and find the fuse for one of them and tap it. Still have to have the “key” to power the radio. Unless you just don’t want the radio on when the engine is not running.

For the record the shop I deal with does not have a copy Fusion upfitters manual.

One reason the manufacturers don’t give you an option to disable it is because it is a key feature in the mandated economy calculations. If they give you a way to disable it, you do, then try to sue when you don’t get the mileage they said you would.

I have to ask, is this a police package, a fleet, or consumer car being upfitted?
I do not know how this org buys its vehicles but i can say for sure
there are no a police packages in these Fusions. All I can say for
sure there was no thought about that in the purchase process.
There was a power drop provided that was used(-, + and Ign) so
the vehicle provider Ford dealer must have provided that. We
just used the provided power drop pigtail as we were told to do.
We looked it over and the Ign level fluctuated low during the auto
shut down process hence my inquiry into a better Ign point. If we
get the vehicle back we can look for a better point as you suggested.
If I get more info I can update.

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:09 am
by jhooten
Talked to a different guy at the shop. He said the reason they don’t have the upfitters manual is because their is no police package for the Fusion unless you go with the new Hybrid Pursuit.

Re: 2019 Ford Fusion - Auto Shutdown Feature

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:26 pm
by wd9cms
I have one of the eliminators posted above on a 2018 Ford Raptor and it works as advertised. You turn the auto stop feature off and it stays off. Every time you start the engine the module turns the feature off.