Jotto Desk vs. Havis Shields console for Explorer

nylawman · Post by **nylawman** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:42 pm

I want to install radio equipment in a leased 2004 Ford Explorer. Both Havis Shields/Consolidator and Jotto Desk reportedly make a (no holes drilled) replacement section for the front end of the Explorer factory console. Each reportedly holds 12" of equipment in custom faceplates. Has anyone examined, used or installed either model? Which would you recommend? Charlie

grinthock · Post by **grinthock** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:45 pm

I have the jotto in my Impala, great quality, faceplates are top notch.

I could pull it out, put back in the ash tray and you would never know it was in the car.

ZERO drilling. Perfect fit and finish.

kens · Post by **kens** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:19 pm

Our fire dept. has purchased several consoles from Inch's Tooling and Machine Shop in Loomis, Ca. All were for Expeditions and are very good quality. You can see a couple of models on their website http://www.inchstooling.com
Good luck
Ken

apco25 · Post by **apco25** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:07 am

now that is some very nice custome stuff!

Very cool, much like what I did with the special radio trays I had built out of stainless steel.

nylawman · Post by **nylawman** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:46 am

Thanks for your feedback. A board member sold me ($125) a slightly used Havis Shields model. Should be plug and play, with, perhaps, a couple of new faceplate/brackets necessary to hold my specific eqipment. FYI, I have a Troy console in my Crown Vic CVPI (primary work vehicle/lots of mounting room bedtween buckets). Great design & quality. The two I sought (Havis & Jotto), were selected for consideration based on their "no holes" ease of installation and removal as leased Explorer must be restored to its original condition in 2.5 years./ Charlie

K4RXR · Post by **K4RXR** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:32 am

Let me bump this topic with some additional questions.

It looks like the Jotto Desk console for the Explorer is a little deeper than the Havis-Shields. More depth would seem to be A Good Thing in order to accomodate deeper equipment that doesn't have remote head capability. However, the only photos on the two websites aren't detailed enough to give me a clear answer.

So, is the Jotto Desk console deeper? If it is, I'm guessing that it's not much. Maybe a half inch or an inch.

Also, it appears from the photos that the Jotto Desk unit has a slight slope up from back to front while the Havis-Shields is dead flat. True?

I see that Jotto Desk got at least one thumbs-up for manufacturing quality. Any comments about the quality of the Havis-Shields unit?

Thanks!

Bob...

BPD109 · Post by **BPD109** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:23 pm

My take:

Helped put in a Jotto console in an '04 Explorer...and was VERY pleased with it. Fit and finish was good, I dont like the phillips screws in the faceplates, I much prefer the secure torx that Troy uses.

Aside from that, the console is sturdy enough to handle the demand placed upon it. It is currently holding an MCS2K, Model II head a Carson LCS-7 Siren/Switch panel and an SVP arrowstick control head. another MCS2K will be added to it soon, but a model I, dashmount...there's plent of room.

There is a pretty big cost difference between the Havis and Jotto, if I remember right. The Havis is made out of a bit larger guage steel, but thats really about all.

ESDA20 · Post by **ESDA20** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:33 pm

Explorer with JottoDesk

jayres · Post by **jayres** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:49 pm

BPD109 is correct... he helped with the install in my vehicle, an '04 Explorer... I'm very happy with the JottoDesk console, and it is very simple to put the factory portion back in when you are done with it... And there is a big price difference, but I am happy with it... Here is the link to my earlier post, and some pics on it... Let me know if you want any more info or detailed pics, won't be a problem... Jon

http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=42278

commtek · Post by **commtek** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:20 am

Jotto Desk console. Can have it installed in 10 minutes. We use a lot of them in Exploders.

K4RXR · Post by **K4RXR** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:29 pm

commtek wrote:Jotto Desk console. Can have it installed in 10 minutes. We use a lot of them in Exploders.

Bump again.

I'm about ready to order a Jotto console for my '03 Explorer, so I did some poking around today to see what it was going to take to get the top of the old console off. I'm stumped. What screw or clip or whatever am I missing? Or do you have to take the whole console out in order to take it apart to attach the Jotto console.

Bob...

echelon0911 · Post by **echelon0911** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:07 am

It's been a couple years since I did mine, but if memory serves, you remove a black plug in the console tray and that reveals either a screw or a clip. Once removed, the console should pop out.

K4RXR · Post by **K4RXR** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:53 pm

I think I have it figured out. The link to the installation instructions on Jotto Desk's website was broken, but it worked today when I checked. It looks like once you remove the screw that's under the pad in the storage compartment, it's just a matter of applying some pressure to pop the top out of the clips.

Bob...

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