Secure Saber II convert to III using a non secure III
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Motoman
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Secure Saber II convert to III using a non secure III
I've got a Saber III non-secure, and i'm wondering can i convert a Saber II secure but replacing the front shield with my non-secure III front sheild? thanks.
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Saber III replacement front shield to secure Saber II front.
Sure, get a hammer and beat the shield into the secure housing and close it up, OR, get a blank secure front shield and fit your display/memory board onto that one.
If you use a non-secure front, it will cause problems with the speaker location and the DTMF pad, resulting in poor audio quality, and non-functioning tones, or improper tones with key presses, but will also provide POOR R.F shielding and possible shorting out the memory board.
Swapping a Saber III front into a Saber II radio gets you this:
What you'll get is a DTMF front shield that you can only use the top three buttons, but aside from losing DTMF, you'll still have 120 channels available, but you will also have to keep hitting the [MODE[ button to scroll through all the zones.
Simply go into your RSS and disable DTMF/MTI in F4 menu(dumb down).
If you use a non-secure front, it will cause problems with the speaker location and the DTMF pad, resulting in poor audio quality, and non-functioning tones, or improper tones with key presses, but will also provide POOR R.F shielding and possible shorting out the memory board.
Swapping a Saber III front into a Saber II radio gets you this:
What you'll get is a DTMF front shield that you can only use the top three buttons, but aside from losing DTMF, you'll still have 120 channels available, but you will also have to keep hitting the [MODE[ button to scroll through all the zones.
Simply go into your RSS and disable DTMF/MTI in F4 menu(dumb down).
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Tom in D.C.
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S3 conversion
Putting an S3 case on a 120-channel S2 gets you an S3. Usually the 120-channel S2 has a full keypad already installed, including the 8K memory.
The procedure is described on Batlabs.com and it works because I did it once. The radio I did it to is now owned by 10-95. The 120-channel S2 already has everything you need except for the S3 case. If you have a 48-channel S2 then you have to change the shield.
Again, read the Batlabs info on the Saber; it's all there.
The procedure is described on Batlabs.com and it works because I did it once. The radio I did it to is now owned by 10-95. The 120-channel S2 already has everything you need except for the S3 case. If you have a 48-channel S2 then you have to change the shield.
Again, read the Batlabs info on the Saber; it's all there.
Tom in D.C.
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Re: S3 conversion
Tom in D.C. wrote:Putting an S3 case on a 120-channel S2 gets you an S3. Usually the 120-channel S2 has a full keypad already installed, including the 8K memory.
The procedure is described on Batlabs.com and it works because I did it once. The radio I did it to is now owned by 10-95. The 120-channel S2 already has everything you need except for the S3 case. If you have a 48-channel S2 then you have to change the shield.
Again, read the Batlabs info on the Saber; it's all there.
Yes, I do currently own that Saber Tom modified and it's working quite nicely and looks great, unless someone told you you'd never know it started life as a Saber 3.
Frank
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Microwave Mike
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convertion
The non-secure, short, front display case WILL fit on a secure radio.
It will end next to the top of the secure module. Just be careful putting the radio in it's case.
Enjoy your new features.
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It will end next to the top of the secure module. Just be careful putting the radio in it's case.
Enjoy your new features.
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Microwave Mike
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convertion
The non-secure, short, front display case WILL fit on a secure radio.
It will end next to the top of the secure module. Just be careful putting the radio in it's case.
Enjoy your new features.
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It will end next to the top of the secure module. Just be careful putting the radio in it's case.
Enjoy your new features.
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Re: convertion
Better yet, just swap the eeproms, they can be removed from the front sheild.Microwave Mike wrote:The non-secure, short, front display case WILL fit on a secure radio.
It will end next to the top of the secure module. Just be careful putting the radio in it's case.
Enjoy your new features.
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Frank
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Microwave Mike
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convertion
The board can be removed, but the double stick tape WILL stress the circuit board on removal. Not a good idea on four layer boards.
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Re: convertion
A little heating on it does wonders before pulling it off. I've removed and transplanted about 10 or so now with no problems. I guess it's all with what you feel comfortable with.Microwave Mike wrote:The board can be removed, but the double stick tape WILL stress the circuit board on removal. Not a good idea on four layer boards.
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Frank