MotoTRBO. You saw it here first!!!!
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- mikegilbert
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MotoTRBO. You saw it here first!!!!
Hey batlabs.
I spent last night fooling around with my new Motorola XPR4550. Here are some screen (display) shots for you guys to feast on.
Oh, and here's a short video I made today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En8-lRhDoro
I did a dry fit in my car- the radio is DIN size, so I'd imagine there's a nice bracket available.
Enjoy.
-Mike
RSSI Display!!!
Menu Structure
Hopefully this isn't developmental FW
TXT LOL hehe.
Awesome!
Size Comparison
I spent last night fooling around with my new Motorola XPR4550. Here are some screen (display) shots for you guys to feast on.
Oh, and here's a short video I made today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En8-lRhDoro
I did a dry fit in my car- the radio is DIN size, so I'd imagine there's a nice bracket available.
Enjoy.
-Mike
RSSI Display!!!
Menu Structure
Hopefully this isn't developmental FW
TXT LOL hehe.
Awesome!
Size Comparison
- mikegilbert
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No $h#t escomm- I must have been hiding under a rock or something.
We've all known about it, you are correct.
This is just to give the other 95% of batlabs (non MSS employees/IWCE attendees) a chance to see it working.
Anyway, please enjoy- I guess I'm easily entertained.
-Mike
We've all known about it, you are correct.
This is just to give the other 95% of batlabs (non MSS employees/IWCE attendees) a chance to see it working.
Anyway, please enjoy- I guess I'm easily entertained.
-Mike
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- mikegilbert
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The TMS is pretty much the same as the DTR series, if you've played with them.
Hmmph...our demos, as well as the CPS & cables, aren't available to us here in Canada until sometime in March Placed the orders though!
Hmmph...our demos, as well as the CPS & cables, aren't available to us here in Canada until sometime in March Placed the orders though!
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- mikegilbert
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What do you mean by "regular CPS"?? I assumed you had it since you posted the pics. The TRBO CPS is part# RVN5115. The cable part numbers are:mikegilbert wrote:I'm hoping this will work with the regular CPS- it doesn't even have a motorola P/N sticker.
Does it take the XTL/PM programming cable?
-Mike
Portable programming/service cable – PMKN4013
Portable programming cable – PMKN4012
Mobile front programming cable – HKN6184
Repeater/mobile rear programming/service cable – PMKN4016
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Well this is a developmental radio so i don't know if the regular CPS will even talk to it.wavetar wrote:What do you mean by "regular CPS"?? I assumed you had it since you posted the pics...
I used the test frequencies that were already loaded in the radio for the RX check.
Thanks for the part #'s. I'll be ordering the cable shortly.
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More Pictures
Here are anothers pictures.
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Our dealer just got their demos in, and we were first on their list to try them out. I have to say I am pretty impressed. We have them programed for or analog repeater... and they sound clearer then our current ht-1250's. We also have them on a digital simplex channel and the range is pretty excellent. Yay moto!
Anyone else run into this little 'bug' with the CPS?
I found that the factory programmed digital personality of course works. Now, try deleting the factory analog personality, and manually creating a second, third, fourth, etc, digital channel. By "manually", I mean right-click "Zone 1", and choose "new", "digital channel". It will put them in there...but they will NOT work...you just get an error tone when you attempt to transmit. Doesn't matter if you set it as a repeater channel, or a simplex channel. Also doesn't' matter which "repeater slot" you set it for. This happened with both of my demo portables, and the demo mobile.
I had to erase all but the factory digital personality, then highlight the personality, right-click it, and choose "copy". Then highlight "Zone 1", right-click it, and choose "paste". It will add it as the next channel, and it will then work!
This was with the latest "B" version of the CPS.
What a pain in the @ss...especially when I was trying to program the buggers the night before they were to be showcased at a convention.
Todd
I found that the factory programmed digital personality of course works. Now, try deleting the factory analog personality, and manually creating a second, third, fourth, etc, digital channel. By "manually", I mean right-click "Zone 1", and choose "new", "digital channel". It will put them in there...but they will NOT work...you just get an error tone when you attempt to transmit. Doesn't matter if you set it as a repeater channel, or a simplex channel. Also doesn't' matter which "repeater slot" you set it for. This happened with both of my demo portables, and the demo mobile.
I had to erase all but the factory digital personality, then highlight the personality, right-click it, and choose "copy". Then highlight "Zone 1", right-click it, and choose "paste". It will add it as the next channel, and it will then work!
This was with the latest "B" version of the CPS.
What a pain in the @ss...especially when I was trying to program the buggers the night before they were to be showcased at a convention.
Todd
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The only CPS that people have trouble getting are the Professional Series (HT/CDM), Entry Level Professional Series (CT250/450), and Professional Trunked Series (MTX850/8250, etc) which for whatever reason have their own specific license agreement.Johnny Galaga wrote:I've read other threads on here that it's really hard to get Motorola to sell you the CPS. Is that still true with these new radios?
All other CPS/RSS falls under the "general" license agreement that anybody can sign, pay for & obtain.
That said, I don't know which one will apply to the TRBO radios...it's too new to be on the RSS spreadsheet on MOL.
All TRBO cables are USB based...no serial cables at all (so far, at least).Johnny Galaga wrote: Does CPS use the same old RIB box as RSS, or is there some other way you're supposed to hook it up to the computer?
Todd
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According to the matrix I saw at the Motorola road show in November, they envision these radios to be sort of "upper middle class" in their portfolio. They recommend them for certain types of public safety, such as small to mid-sized municipal police & fire fleets no problem. The physical build quality surpasses the HT/CDM & Commercial series stuff (IP57 & all that), so I'd have to agree. It fills in a large gap between their current platforms & the "Homeland Security" level of the Astro stuff.nmfire10 wrote:So what are these things designed and intended for? Buisness? Public safety?
I'm going to make this thread a sticky until the info can get moved to the knowledge base...so far it contains pictures, part numbers, CPS bug work arounds, etc.
Todd
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So at the same sort of market tier where you'd find the MT2000 etc in the ASTRO Saber days?wavetar wrote:According to the matrix I saw at the Motorola road show in November, they envision these radios to be sort of "upper middle class" in their portfolio. They recommend them for certain types of public safety, such as small to mid-sized municipal police & fire fleets no problem. The physical build quality surpasses the HT/CDM & Commercial series stuff (IP57 & all that), so I'd have to agree. It fills in a large gap between their current platforms & the "Homeland Security" level of the Astro stuff.nmfire10 wrote:So what are these things designed and intended for? Buisness? Public safety?
I'm going to make this thread a sticky until the info can get moved to the knowledge base...so far it contains pictures, part numbers, CPS bug work arounds, etc.
Todd
According to the engineer that I spoke with from /\/\, they are positioning these to be the evolution / replacement for the Professional Series radios, once they are ultimately discontinued.
If I were a betting man, I would guess that we will see the pricing on the two series getting closer and closer as discontinuation of the Professional Series approaches, several years down the line.
If I were a betting man, I would guess that we will see the pricing on the two series getting closer and closer as discontinuation of the Professional Series approaches, several years down the line.
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I think it needs to go already... it doesn't do DTMF! Jk, I don't think it's capable of doing DTMF
FYI, the repeater cannot run in mixed mode, it's either analog or digital and is controllable only by the CPS... though I suppose you could put up two repeaters on the same pair and have one run digital and one run analog.
FYI, the repeater cannot run in mixed mode, it's either analog or digital and is controllable only by the CPS... though I suppose you could put up two repeaters on the same pair and have one run digital and one run analog.
Yes, but there is about a 1/2 to 3/4 second delay from the time you talk on digital and the time it comes out on everyone else's radio, and sometimes you just have to have realtime comms. So flipping to analog would be nice and convenient for times like that.mr.syntrx wrote:The fact that mixed mode is possible on ASTRO base stations doesn't make it a good idea anyway, except maybe on the hammy bands.
Most digital radios have that DSP lag in analog and digital modes anyway, military gear especially.
Check out the lag in FM on an MBITR sometime.
Check out the lag in FM on an MBITR sometime.
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What are the prospects for the "S" bandsplit?
Can you mix TDMA and conventional channels in a Zone?
I like what these radios offer but our EX600s and CDM1250s give us a lot of interoperability (between other Gov'ts on UHF). The "R" bandsplit does not cover enough for us.
Can you mix TDMA and conventional channels in a Zone?
I like what these radios offer but our EX600s and CDM1250s give us a lot of interoperability (between other Gov'ts on UHF). The "R" bandsplit does not cover enough for us.
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