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I just had an IM with the seller of several radios on Ebay, I am quite skeptacle if they even exist, I will include a copy of the IM that transspired between the two of us, the seller said he didn't care, I will also post a link to his auction. Hopefully, none of us will get burned by a kook like this.

The link.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :X:BN:US:2

The IM......

Or geeeee: hi
motorolahacker: how ya doin?
Or geeeee: this is [email protected]
Or geeeee: good you
motorolahacker: fine
Or geeeee: ok lets get to bussiness
motorolahacker: that's fine
Or geeeee: ok
Or geeeee: what you looking for
motorolahacker: are these radio's built from parts? or "new"
Or geeeee: brand new
motorolahacker: ok, I need a 800 for sure, vhf is a tossup
motorolahacker: what kind of $$$
Or geeeee: ok how much will you pay what do you think
motorolahacker: they are your radio's, I am sure you know what you need for them
motorolahacker: I will obviously say as little as possible
Or geeeee: ya but i like to see what you would pay for them
motorolahacker: I don't like games, you know what you want for your equipment, look at my ebay feedback, I'm not a kid or a deadbeat
Or geeeee: ok ok these radios
motorolahacker: yes
Or geeeee: 800.00 a peice now you go and see what you will pay
motorolahacker: Are they complete and are they model I, II's or III'sn
Or geeeee: i have all of them 1 2 and 3
Or geeeee: what ones do u need
motorolahacker: model 3 meaning with a full keypad
Or geeeee: yes i have them
motorolahacker: these are new in the box with serial number tags??
Or geeeee: yes
motorolahacker: Is there a reason that they are so cheap?
motorolahacker: and what flashcode is in them?
Or geeeee: i have too much inventory
Or geeeee: i need to get ride of some so i can get more
motorolahacker: ok, will you ship Fed Ex COD to a business?
Or geeeee: no i cant
motorolahacker: I see
Or geeeee: sorry
motorolahacker: good luck
Or geeeee: i can ship fedex but no cod
Or geeeee: what ever loser
motorolahacker: seeing as how you have a zero feedback on ebay, that's the best I can do for that kind of money, I don't have a problem with the $800 per unit, but I need to physicaly see it in person before I will come off almost 2K
motorolahacker: still there?
Or geeeee: yes
motorolahacker: well great, I see you had no response for my message but did manage to call me a loser, that's not a real good sales tactic
motorolahacker: Since your so short for words, I will post this IM in it's entirety on the Bat Labs board with a link to you auctions, that ought to help sales speed along for you
Or geeeee: what ever [ Explicit / Moderated ] loser
Or geeeee signed on at 9:24:58 PM.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't feel this seller has a lot to offer, I feel some of us may be waiting around for equipment for quite some time, the seller also started his account on 12/5/02, just FYI.

SG

Looks like he just cut and pasted all the info from M's website! I tried to read through it but I can't figure out weather he is selling a UHF. VHF., 800 or what !!! This does not look like something you would want to gamble on, unless you just like to gamble!

Frank

He says he has all of them, in stock, but needs to sell them because he's overstocked, and then will buy more??? I would only feel better if I had to send my $$$ to some remote location in Russia.

SG

Gee, maybe VHFRADIO should hook up with this doofus.

There are a lot of things wrong here.

He just opened the ebay account today - has 23 items up already.
-not unheard of, but unusual.

5 copies of Steel Battalion for $50 - no reserve.
-lists for $199.95 - is a hot xmas seller - out of stock most places.

I really liked this one :http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1943625105
-108-174 MHz? That would come in handy...the next time I have a pursuit into EWR, I could call the tower direct and get clearance to cross the runway...

Didja notice that the few bids he actually got seem to all be from the same person - a deadbeat bidder with a rating of zero?

I could go on, but what's the point? What we have here is the poster child for the old adage
If something seems to good to be true, it probably is...

Gonna steer clear of this scammer.

I agree with everyone else, stay away from him. If he provided an actual picture of the radio that he owns, that would be a different story. And if he says "well, I dont have a digital camara", then ask him how he came about to afford thousands of dollars in radios, but lacks a digital camara. Then on top of it all, dosent know a clue about it (it was allready established that he copied and pasted the info. from Motorolas website.

I wouldn't bid on his auctions if he were selling new boxers, let alone top of the line radios

If he is overstocked on XTS5000s then he should be rich enough to afford a digital camera and take some pictures of his stuff lol. This clown should definately be tared and feathered.

CPD014 -

See my above message

Seems that we were both typing at the same time

Yeah I just noticed lol sorry! we must be reading each others minds.

He should be able to take digital photos of all his stuff, he is selling a bunch of high end digital cameras. DUH

Someone close to him should say they want one and will bring him the money CASH and go by his place to pick it up, that might be FUN, but have some backup close LOL

Cpd014-
Don't worry about it, seems like we both think of this idiot in the same manner lol, and another bat user just pointed out, he SELLS CAMARAS !!! lol, I thought I've seen everything, untill 5 minutes ago
Should make a nice joke around the fireplace this christmas

I'm tempted to bid on one of the low end priced items just to see what happens.

Man, I can see the Internet Fraud Complaint Center documents piling up as I sit here. What a nightmare. Then again, wouldn't we all just S*** if it was all true and he did have legit. XTS's for $800 and we've all told him to piss of. What a laugh. It will atlest be fun to keep an eye on this guy.


mancow

I'll play along without fronting any money. I'm trying to get the serial numbers from the radios along with model numbers. Assuming I can get them, anyone wanna run them through NCIC? I'd be willing to set this guy up for a sting operation. By looking at everything that he's selling and the language in the IM above, I'd be willing to bet that everything is super hot (duh). It'd be cool to send a message to these people...

If ya get s/n's pm me with them, I'l run them @ work.

I jsut emailed this ass*xxxx and gave him such a line of :o that if he sends me a msg. back then he's surely a crook.

I 'm not gonna spoil the soup yet, ready for a laugh everyone?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Well It would be nice to know if this guy is legit or not.

Several of the people bidding on his system have zero feedback and are new users. Hmm, Shill bidding???

motor59 wrote:There are a lot of things wrong here.

Didja notice that the few bids he actually got seem to all be from the same person - a deadbeat bidder with a rating of zero?

I could go on, but what's the point? What we have here is the poster child for the old adage
If something seems to good to be true, it probably is...

Gonna steer clear of this scammer.

Looks like everyone was right....he is now "Not a Registered User" "Every thing under the sun for cheap" yeah, this really means, STOLEN.

Here ya go: This :o is PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
><
Yes it has all the good stuff do you want one I can give you a very
good deal let meknow
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:09 AM
To: rob
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

ok,beautiful, I can't believe I found one!!!!!!!!
WHat condition are they in, and are they flashed for H39, mdc2400?
Want a UHF
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From: "rob" <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

> I have three Spectra W69 all different band splits and vhf and uhf it
> you would like one I will sell one to you let me know
-------------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:17 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105
>
> 108 to 174mhz
> wHAT THE HELL split is that? Is this a SP model?
> If so I am intersted in buying asap. Please let me know. As it's for a
> Christmas Present for my Mother.
>
> anyway. I have been looking for an Astro Spectra W69, but I dont see
> them too often on ebay and when I do, they sell with buy it now for
> about $2600.00 I'd always want to spend at most $3000 and if I could
> find one new in box or used but tested, I'd take it.Reason I am
sending
> you the email is since you have a crap load of Motorola Stuff for
sale,
> thought you might have a lead on one.... Any thoughts, if not thanks
> anyway/
> Bye

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It has every thing. As soon as I get payment I will send you the
products. Send to
Po-box 337
Greenville nh 03048
mcdonald

-----Original Message-----
From: Chfa2001 [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:12 PM
To: ?
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

yeah as in all the good stuff, but does it have what I asked? If it does
not, I would need to send to motorola for the $800 upgrade. So if yuo
have
it, please tell me and tell me how much$$.
How do I pay you? How soon can I have it????????
----- Original Message -----
From: "?" <[email protected]>
To: "'Chfa2001'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105


>
> Yes it has all the good stuff do you want one I can give you a very
> good deal let meknow
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chfa2001 [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:09 AM
> To: rob
> Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105
>
> ok,beautiful, I can't believe I found one!!!!!!!!
> WHat condition are they in, and are they flashed for H39, mdc2400?
> Want a UHF

---------------------------------------------------
> Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105
>
>
> > I have three Spectra W69 all different band splits and vhf and uhf
it
> > you would like one I will sell one to you let me know
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I will sell it to you for 400.00
-----------------------------------
> Yes it has all the good stuff do you want one I can give you a very
> good deal let meknow
> -----Original Message-----

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Thanks, got the address but need to put a name on the envelope, the post
office won't take a address without a name.
----- Original Message -----
From: "?" <[email protected]

His reply was>>>>>>Jason mcdonald
-----------------------------

> It has every thing. As soon as I get payment I will send you the
> products. Send to
> Po-box 337
> Greenville nh 03048
> mcdonald

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Which one? I asked him, he replied:
"The one you want"
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Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

how much need I add for shipping?
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I will ship free

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-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:43 PM
To: ?
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

I was going to bid on some of your other radio equipment, but I can't
find
your auctions, Did you already sell everything? I want one or two radios
for
presents for my aunt and uncle.

-----------------
His reply was:
Yes they all ended I wills end as same day as payment
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IS EVERYONE LAUGHING THEY NUTS OFF YET??????????????????????
HA HA HA, THIS GUY'S ABOUT AS STUPID AS A SCREWDRIVER.


WAIT, JUST GOT ANOTHER REPLY:


-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:53 PM
To: ?
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

I know they ended, but I wanted another portable or two as gifts, and
now I
dont know what you have for sale........

rEply was: I have a lot what do you want
-----------------------------
I just sent him this:

Want a Motorola Keyloader unit, for secure encryption, Needs to be the T30666EX model, I don't care if it's new or used. Most I can offer for it would be $400-500, depending on the condition and stuff. Also need a MX370 on lowband.

I'll take both if you have it, I will send you EXpress mail, Should I send a check or a moneyorder or ??

hOLY crap, I'm makign myself laugh now.................
---------------------------
Here's last reply from him:
I have them there are in excellent condition very good both used still
have Motorola warranty. I will sell for 450.00 check or money order
Send to
Rob Mcdonald
Po-box 337
Greenville nh 03048

-----Original Message-----
From: Chfa2001 [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:58 PM
To: ?
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

Want a Motorola Keyloader unit, for secure encryption, Needs to be the
T30666EX model, I don't care if it's new or used. Most I can offer for
it
would be $400-500, depending on the condition and stuff. Also need a
MX370
on lowband.

I'll take both if you have it, I will send you EXpress mail, Should I
send a
check or a moneyorder or ??

Goes by two names:

Jason mcdonald and Rob mcdonald, and two email addresses.
[email protected]
and
[email protected]

Let the subscriptions begin.................................

Wait, got another reply:


Sent this to him:
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:06 PM
To: ?
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

sending from post office today Jason.
Thanks so much.

RECEIVED THIS AS A REPLY>:
Whast the total so I know

You tell me, You're the seller. IS WHAT i SENT BACK TO HIM

Sent this to him now:
oh, give me your phone # in case I have any questions about the equipment.
Thanks again pal.

Well, he's only 30 miles from me. Did all his auctions "dissappear" miraculously?

Hmmmm.

Bwahahahahahahahhahaaha

Dude, that is great.

I guess HE dissappeared miraculously. That was fast.

His shipping address (for a promised $2400 fedex check)


5 columbian av
Greenville nh 03048


and the po box...

> mcdonald
> Po-box 337
> Greenville nh 03048


Who wants to alert the authorities, and maybe get another scammer...

-Alex

What are you talking about I only have the radios I offer you until Saturday, then go to ebay.I sent you my number so what 603-365-7226
Send quick as you canto
Po-box 337
Greenville nh 03051
macdonald

-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:40 PM
To: ?
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1943625105

If you don't reply I'm not going to the post office,,,,,,,,then no $$...
----------------------------

Man, we found a good idiot.

-Alex

(Thanks SG!)

CHEFA2001 wrote:Goes by two names:

Jason mcdonald and Rob mcdonald, and two email addresses.
[email protected]
and
[email protected]

His idle0095 account showed him as a deadbeat. orgeeeee, no longer a registered user..

Incredible, what some people are capable of.

I love this forum! Being From NH myself this guy is an embarassment to the state. Good Job guys

My email from Ebay today, as I cancelled all my bids on this fools bogus radiio's, it is......

We are writing to inform you that we recently ended all listings for seller gamer1235 on eBay. The seller's privileges to trade on eBay have been temporarily suspended while we investigate this matter further. (The current account status can be viewed next to the user ID of the seller on the eBay site.).

Our records indicate that you were a participating bidder or buyer in this seller's listing. You will need to use your own personal judgment in deciding whether to complete this transaction.

As described in our User Agreement, eBay is only a venue, and we cannot guarantee that sellers will complete transactions nor can we guarantee the delivery or quality of bought items. As a basic principle, a buyer should know with whom he or she is dealing before sending a payment to a seller.

Depending on the circumstances, you might decide to delay payment to a seller until completely confident that the transaction will be completed safely.. If you decide to delay payment but already paid by personal check, you may wish to contact your bank to discuss whether it would be possible to stop payment on the check. If you paid with a credit card, you may wish to contact your credit card company's security department to discuss this payment - many companies provide protection in certain circumstances. If you paid by money order, you may want to contact that money order company for information on how to stop payment.

Please note that the ending of the listings for this seller is a precautionary measure. The grounds for this suspension may be the result of a mistake or misunderstanding.

Some countries have laws that might prevent you from retracting payment by check or otherwise; please inform yourself of applicable laws before acting.

eBay Customer Support


There are many tips on how to protect yourself with any Internet transaction on our help page located at:

<http://pages.ebay.com/help/buyerguide/bidding-tips.html>

If you have any questions, please reply directly to this email.

Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)


There are many tips on how to protect yourself with any Internet transaction on our help page located at:

<http://pages.ebay.com/help/buyerguide/bidding-tips.html>

If you have any questions, please reply directly to this email.

Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)


That is well........................ PRICELESS!! hahahahaha

SG

I raise the glass to spectragod for picking that one out of the bunch of criminals correctly..heres to you!!!

Sounds like the crooks are on the loose trying to scam the x-mas dollars. I am going to refrain from buying anything from e-bay this month..too risky!! At least my TK-840 just arrived safe and sound yippee!!

And the domain info produced...
Special Note check out his Tel #

5 columbian av
greenville, nh 03048
US

Domain Name: OURNEWBABYBOYZACK.COM

Administrative Contact:
macdonald, robert [email protected]
5 columbian av
greenville, nh 03048
US
+1.4165551122x1234
Fax: +1.4165551122x1234

Technical Contact:
Barnard, Kevin [email protected]
487 Federal Rd
Brookfield, CT 06804
US
Tel: <EDITED>
Fax: <EDITED>



Registration Service Provider:
Web.com, [email protected]
203-448-2021
20.-448-2022 (fax)
http://www.web.com


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 18-Nov-2002.
Record expires on 17-Nov-2003.
Record Created on 17-Nov-2002.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.NETFIRMS.COM 209.171.43.30
NS2.NETFIRMS.COM 66.48.76.92

It's funny he admits to having a new digital camera on his website here

"We just got a new digital camera (sony) and said hey lets put it to good use. so i made a web site for zack. "

He must have sold it after making his website.

Sign his guest book while you are at it

http://www.theguestbook.com/egbook/462864.gbook

The idiot just told me he is 15 in am IM, of course I saved it. Also said he is selling under a friends account.

SG

Oh, I signed his guestbook as well, I think we all should.

SG

Excellent Chiefa! A thousand laughs.

I'm surprised that no body asked him if he could get them with the (F-word) option. Oh wait, somebody did.

You know how in war they use laser guided bombs? Somebody just pointed a red dot on him.

So who's gonna go nab him?

It was funny who he told me that he doesn't "sell to pd, go look somewhere else"


hahhahaha

You guys are great. I love the guest book. This was better than the funny pages, that's for sure.

Keep up the good work Batlabs!

The guestbook is a trip! I bet he wishes he never tried to sell radios on Ebay!

You guys will get a kick out my email with this clown. It started at 9:07am EST Friday and last about an hour. It was really fun (in a sad way).



<ME>What are the model numbers on the radios you have?
And the quanities? Looking at the
CDM1250 & 1550
Ht1000's
XTS3500 & 5000
Will do a large group purchase.

<ROB>I don't have the models numbers with me the radios are at my
warehouse still in the brand new cases. I have a lot of these radios.
67 of them. I have 67 of each radio

<ME>Wow, that's a lot of radios.
Do you think you might be able to grab some part numbers and some rough idea on price. I can come down and pick up.

<ROB>Ya what you need no you cant come down and pick up I don't live in ill any more so I can send to you

<ME>OK, Let me know the model numbers.

<ROB>I don't have them on me sorry. You don't need model numbers any ways. What do you want I will tell you what I have

<ME>I'm looking for:
Ht1000 H01KDC9AA3DN
XTS5000 H18UCF9PW7
CDM 1250 AAM25KKC9AA2
CDM 1550 AAM25KKf9AA5

<ROB>Oki can give you those. I have them what ones u need

<ME>Ok, Give pricing on 10-20 of each unit

<ROB>10 to 20 what channels let me know

<me>No, quantity of radios, not channels. I'm looking to buy 30-40 radios.

<ROB>Ok I have 56 give me a price I can sell each untit for 200.00

<ME>Lets start with these:
Ht1000 H01KDC9AA3DN quanity 30=$6000
XTS5000 H18UCF9PW7 quanity 30=$6000
Total $12,000
Is that correct?

<ROB>Yes this is correct why do you need so much

<ME>I have a lot of projects coming up in the next couple of months. Are you sure you can fill that order?

<Rob>Yes I have all the radios already all I will have to do is program them

<ME>I can do all the programming. Payment options: 1. escrow.com 2. I drive over to you. 3. you drive over to me. Your choice.

<ROB>Soory no no no on all three options. I don't do that I get money then I send sorry. No business with u bye now

<ME>I'm sorry to hear that. What would you suggest to guaranty delivery?

<rob>I ship fedex over night that's it sorry

Honest to god, is he TRYING to get himself arrested? I mean, scamming a $25.00 battery is bad, but he just agreed to scam you out of $12,000!!!

Gee I wonder why he won't sell to Police Dept's.

Someone email him telling him he has been turned in to his local PD and the FBI - see what he says

However, it IS againsts eBays laws to sell something in which you do not have in your possesion! LOL

i sold this guy an ht 1250 ls that i had laying around. he paid via pay pal and payed for overnite shipping. he paid right away. i do not know about any of his other items. lol. glad i got my money.