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Group looking for A B5 codeplug for A MTX8000. I want to force the codeplug into my B3 model. I tried the one off of the codeplug website and it would not open on the Lab Software. Thanks in advance.

Kyle

I gather from your post that you are getting a 'Codeplug to new/old' error upon reading the B5 codeplug.

One way to circumvent this would be to use the lab to read/write without 'unpacking' the codeplug into archive format. Then use a newer non-lab version of MTSX that can then edit the contents of the radio's codeplug.

Actually I wish I was getting that. Actually I am getting a "unrecoverable error, unable to continue" Message. So I figure that there is something wrong with that codeplug.
Kyle

Never had that one before... perhaps the software is fussy. Run it is pure DOS if it is not already. Try some other codeplugs to see if it is a codeplug archive problem or a software bug. MT2000, MTS2000, and MTX9000 will also work.

I have Lab R.02.00.01 and the B5 codeplug from the supersite causes the 'codeplug to old' (although it really means new) error. Using MTSX R.06.00.00 it loads without a problem.

KC2DLA

Are you trying to make your B3 have a front display? I know most B3's won't accept a front display, just a top display.

-Tony

KC2DLA, Cetral 150,

I read that you can make a B3 a B5 with out converting it to a top mount Display. I want to enable it to do more Channels. I heard it will take the B5 codeplug and you can use the A,B,C Switch to add the channels. Thanks Again.

Kyle

You can get a code plug that will do 255 "modes", but you will only be able to do 3 Zones of 16 modes each. You have to make your A,B,C Switch into ZONE SELECT. then you will have zone a b and c.

-Tony

Central150,
Thats exactly what I want to do. Just need the codeplug to do it.Hopefully I can get one. Thanks again.
Kyle

Okay,

I now have the B5 Codeplug Reading without that error message but am now getting the "Codeplug is to old for is operation". How annoying... What is my next step????? Thanks again for all the help guys.

Kyle

RADIO43 wrote:Okay,

I now have the B5 Codeplug Reading without that error message but am now getting the "Codeplug is to old for is operation". How annoying... What is my next step????? Thanks again for all the help guys.

Kyle

Read the codeplug, like you already did. Ignore the 'codeplug too old' error. The LAB RSS has actually loaded the packed codeplug into it's program, it just couldn't 'unpack' the contents to display it for editing purposes. So, now go into the 'read/write with no pack/unpack' screen, and press "F8-Write to radio". The LAB will force the B5 codeplug into the B3 unit. Then use your regular RSS to do the actual programming of the radio. Simple as that.

Todd

Wavetar,
Thank you for the advise. I am following your instruction to the "T". Heres where the trouble is. When I go to read the coleplug off a disk, it still comes up with the codeplug to old and then it shows that it is not in the memory (meaning the model # does not appear in the top left hand corner). I actually did the F3 to read codeplug from disk and then went into the "read/write" with no pack/unpack. I actually programed the codeplug into the radio and it took it. I have read the radio using "RSS" and now I am get that there is no codeplug in the radio. I am thinking I need a B5 radio to read and then program it right into the radio rather than using a codeplug file off a disk. Or is there any B5 Codeplugs that will not come up Too Old for the etc. Thanks again.
Kyle

One last update. The radio is defientley taking the Codeplug but after it takes and you go to read the radio, say that there is no codeplug in it. THanks again guys. I hope we can figure this out.
Kyle

You need LAB version 3.02.00 for this to work. If you are using 2.00.01, then that is likely your problem. Myself & others have done this many times. You are correct the RSS will NOT show the model # after the 'codeplug too old' error, but it will still be loaded in packed form.

Todd

Wavetar,
Thanks again. I am using Lab 2.00.01. I guess this is my problem which I will not be able to fix unless I can find an older codeplug. Thanks for the help.
Kyle

check out this link...

http://batboard.ohioaprs.net/viewtopic. ... 1da1af1edb

it is my 'education' on converting my b5 to a b7. pay attention to the issues and procedures. follow them closely!!! wavtar is the man!!!

-werdnuts

ok... here's the workaround you will need. the quotes are my posts located at the end of the discussion i posted above... there a couple of other tips after...

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“Holy crap! This has been a pain in the junk. Here's the situation. I don't have access to the B7 original anymore. all i have is the archive. every time i tried to load the cpg, i would get too new error. so... here is my workaround. i moved the copy of the archive to the main directory. once there, i went to the f6 archive/srecord menu. i then read the archive. i went back out to the read/write w/ no unpack. i programmed the cpg in the radio. success. so far, the only problem i have is that i cannot read the cpg w/ the lab or go to the service menu due to the cpg being too new. minor issue. might have an issue when trying to fix the s/n. damn.”

“OK... found a workaround. i can read and open the cpg w/ my old version of lab... 2.whatever. sweet!!!!”

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try this method… it should work for you.

A couple of tips:

Make sure you write down the exact name of the archive and make a copy in the main directory… the same dir where the runtime file, exe files, and such are located. when you go into the f6 menu, you will be choose the read archive button, but you must type in the name EXACTLY AS IT APPEARS IN DOS. Once you do this, it will load the cpg, keep in mind, it is not unpacked and you will not see the details. Go back one menu and choose the read/write w/ no unpack… write to the radio… boom. There you go! All you have to do is align the radio. Before you do this, make sure you go into the alignment and write down all the softpot values. After you have shoved the new cpg in, you can put those original softpot values back in - and you will be aligned. You might have to use regular mtxs software to do the alignment… it is a bit safer and more stable. The same may apply for the reading the softpot values in the first place. Good luck!

-werdnuts

Group,

I just wanted to thank everyone (wavetar, weirdnuts,ect,) for all of there hel[ on this project. Tonight I was able to use MTSX Lab 3.00.02 Software and the Codeplug Swap went perfect. My B3 is now a B5 with the exception of the front ID Display, althoug I am wondering if that is possible??? Again thank you all and cheers
Kyle

RADIO43 wrote:KC2DLA, Cetral 150,

I read that you can make a B3 a B5 with out converting it to a top mount Display. I want to enable it to do more Channels. I heard it will take the B5 codeplug and you can use the A,B,C Switch to add the channels. Thanks Again.

Another way to do it is to get your hands on a continuous rotary codeplug... But they are only useful if you've got a display.