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Saber Securenet-S

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:29 am
by medic4145
Is this radio a systems saber? I dont have the model number to decode. It is a Saber I with Securenet-S on the display by the on off nob??

Thanks

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:40 am
by Andreas
Look at the channel knob.
Systems Saber has 16 positions
Saber has 12 positions
MX1000/2000/3000 has 10 positions

Andreas

Saber Securenet-S

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:46 am
by medic4145
It has 12 channel positions. That would make to beleive it is a Standard Saber I. So is the difference between Securenet and a Securenet-S??

Thanks

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:36 am
by RESCUE161
Securenet-S is a submersible.

Thanks

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:56 am
by medic4145
Thanks now that I ready that I do remember what the S stood for.


Thanks for the refresher

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:06 am
by mancow
Is the saber written in yellow?



mancow

yes

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:22 pm
by medic4145
Yes

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:37 pm
by mancow
Yep, that's the other idicator of submersibility.




mancow

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:20 pm
by N4UMJ
On another Saber 1 was working on this weekend I found the Housing on a Submersible Saber to have the word (SUBMERSIBLE) embossed into the housing under the large square Motorola Placard/Decal.

You would never see this unless that placard was removed.

Another thing I have observed is the Submersible Covering over the speaker has a white appearance to it where as the regular non-submersible covering is black and reflects no light. You have to be looking at a 45 degree angle up into the speaker to see it well.

I am thinking the black is a felt material and the white is a membrane of some sort. Maybe someone has disassembled these and knows for sure.

Eddie
N4UMJ

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:28 pm
by mancow
Yes, it's a membrane seal. The R models have this as well. It's sandwiched under the front grill inbetween the plastic housing that has all the small round holes. I've never seen one that isn't damaged in some way.

If you are careful they can be repaired. I haven't done it on a regular housing but have fixed several R housings. It's no fun at all but is possible. Adhering the new one is the hard part. They use two pieces of a double faced type of sticky rubber that goes around the edges then sticks to the main housing. If done carefully the pieces can be separated and a new membrane can be replaced. I used a vinyl medical glove and a razor blade to make a new piece. If there is just a small hole the super thin double faced tape works ok to patch them.

mancow

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:56 pm
by N4UMJ
I had washed one of the non-submersible Saber housing here and put the radio back together and noticed the sound was way down. Waited overnite and things were back to normal. That was why I was thinking it was a sponge like felt of some sort that would actually hold water.

Funny you should mention gloves.

In the aircraft business I was in we bought these "Diamond Grip" Brand latex gloves (which are excellent by the way) and after a couple months in the toolbox they would almost seem to decompose and stick to each other. Also they would rip easily when put on. I think some latex has a very short usable shelf life.

The "vinyl" you chose would be much better choice I am sure.

I guess getting the housing apart to get access to the diaphram/membrane would be the tricky part.

Eddie
N4UMJ

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:40 pm
by ricciticcitembo
a Swiss Army knife will pry it open, no problemo.