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OK folks
Got the dreaded ERR 01 0D on my VHF saber III
Where do I go from here?

Thanks is advance
Fowler

Look here:

http://www.batlabs.com/saber.html

It's normal for when you are programming.

Here is the quote from the other Board:

"By the way, if you look at your Saber III when you are programming it, and see an ERR 01 D in the display... don't worry, this is normal. Actually, it even mentions it in the programming manual."

And speaking of the programming manual, anyone who works with Sabers should at the very least have one of them. The part number for the V7 RSS is RVN-4002K and it's available from several sources. The V7 RSS has a few features that V6 does not, but the book is pretty much the same.

Thanks guys
Its stuck in that mode right now
I read it and it said there was a checksum error
I'll try a new profile and program that

Fowler

Hello Fowler:

Just a note of interest to you and perhaps others.

Saber RSS and the Radio Series were one line of
Motorola Products that were made where it is
possible to corrupt the radio during a normal
program session. ( and add a cheap Rib ) U add
a little extra to the soup.

Anyhow, most Sabers can " Easily Be Restored " if you
just " Create a New RPF " [ Radio Personality File ]

However, this is where some / many get into trouble !

Although the RSS may alow you to enter anything you
want in the radio, the RADIO HARDWARE may not be
compatable with the Personality File you load into it.

Sorta Like Loading a VHF Code Plug into a UHF Radio.

Anyhow, once the radio has been " Locked Up " and
you can't go any futher, by creating the proper code
plug to " Match the Hardware " in the radio, it may need
some TLC from a Professional Service Tech.

Tech Tip:

Anytime you see the radio screen " Flash " you are pretty
much SOL and does require a special set up to recover.

SOMETIMES, a Locked condition can require the same
recovery proceedure.

This happens wthen the External / Internal COPE has
problems, and one , or both may have to be disabled.

I am more than happy to correct the code plug problem
for you fowler since we have done a lot of business. If
you can't make it play, send it to me, and I can fix it for
you !

Monty

Monty
Thanks again buddy
Guess I'll be sending you another Saber

Me and those Sabers.... bad news!

Fowler

Abbylind,

I was able to restore one of my long lost Sabers and it was sort of like opening up a combination lock.

Certain documented procedures and of course a well equipped Saber Test Bench to power up the Saber out of its housing makes this a lot easier. I came across a RTL-4225A Motorola test fixture to help with this although prior to getting it I used the "ball grip" type test lead attachments to hook into the bottom radio contacts to power it up out of its housing.

I followed the procedure found in the "Saber Theory and Maintenance Manual" under the troubleshooting section for the Micro-Processor reset. Very detailed and for me it worked perfectly.
You may also need the accompanying Saber schematics which are in a seperate manual to find the proper pins.

I admit the Saber does look like it is in for open heart surgery when all this is being done but in my case I was most pleased with the results.

In my case the Saber II had all segments turned on and no beeps or other signs of life. Really had nothing to lose and I was glad I figured this one out and it works perfectly now.

Good Luck on the restoration/reset!

Eddie
N4UMJ

http://www.batlabs.com/saber.html

go to the page above and click on the saber service cable. Look at the diagram and if you can make up a simple toggle switch the shorts the option select pin to the ground pin(pin 7 of the UDC to pin 14 with the rib box end connected by the way) all you need to do is power your radio up with the toggle switch mentioned above shorted and while holding in the side PTT button, next after the radio turns on, remove the short IE open the toggle switch up while still holding in the PTT button and then release the PTT button and you should be able to recover the radio by writting in the original saved codeplug or by creating a new one matching the factory model number of the radio. You will probably lose tracking data if you go the create RPF file route but at least you can recover the radio.

The above proceedure is one of the so called secrets that the depot uses to recover sabers from various crashes.


Mike

Just a further note on what I observed......

My Saber idle current (volume down and no receive) was about 200mA on the confused and corrupted Saber.

After the U400 reset and the PTT sequence mentioned above it went to the normal 60-70mA and of course the radio functioned and programmed normally.

I suppose the Microprocessor being in some sort of endless program execution or loop caused that higher current reading.

U103 was a much better location for me to locate the Micro reset points as it is an 8 Pin IC and is fairly easy to see and determine pin numbers.

Eddie

Eddie,

You are correct on the increased idle current. Mine did the exact same thing to the point that the side of the radio was hot to touch prior to the reset proceedure.


Mike

Thanks, that help me to recover a crashed MX3010

Its realy a secret, may be added to Saber Information on the main site

Jan