Interface 27 MHz C.B. Transceiver to KSU Phone System

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Interface 27 MHz C.B. Transceiver to KSU Phone System

Post by Batman »

I have 2 phone systems available to use. Both are KSU types. one is a Merlin 410 the other is a Panasonic VA-208. is there a way to interface(now don't laugh) a C.B. Radio (yes, not a typo) to the KSU so that people could use a extension phone to Tx/Rx the CB?
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Re: Interface 27 MHz C.B. Transceiver to KSU Phone System

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Batman wrote:I have 2 phone systems available to use. Both are KSU types. one is a Merlin 410 the other is a Panasonic VA-208. is there a way to interface(now don't laugh) a C.B. Radio (yes, not a typo) to the KSU so that people could use a extension phone to Tx/Rx the CB?
Taking the question as stated: Yes, you can. You need a Merlin BTMI and an auto-answer hybrid or phone patch. Program the port on the merlin not to ring on the CO lines, and have it default to the intercom path when it goes off hook. Plug the patch into the BTMI, set up the signal & PTT leads and away you go.

PS - The Null, VOX, and anti-vox are going to take a *lot* of tweaking
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Post by 440roadrunner »

I'm not too darn sure, if you are in the U.S, that this would even be legal

According to this:


http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422 ... 95.420.pdf


which came from here:


http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/wais ... 95_05.html


§ 95.420 (CB Rule 20) May I connect
my CB station transmitter to a telephone?
(a) You may connect your CB station
transmitter to a telephone if you comply
with all of the following:
(1) You or someone else must be
present at your CB station and must—
(i) Manually make the connection
(the connection must not be made by
remote control);
(ii) Supervise the operation of the
transmitter during the connection;
(iii) Listen to each communication
during the connection; and
(iv) Stop all communications if there
are operations in violation of these
rules.
(2) Each communication during the
telephone connection must comply
with all of these rules.
(3) You must obey any restriction
that the telephone company places on
the connection of a CB transmitter to
a telephone.
(b) The CB transmitter you connect
to a telephone must not be shared with
any other CB station.
(c) If you connect your CB transmitter
to a telephone, you must use a
phone patch device with has been reg
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Post by Batman »

it's legal. I'm not connecting it to a PTSN for phone patches. I'm connecting it to a PBX/KSU for on site use by employees. Basically a expanded version of a DC Remote. I've seen this done in police stations with their Radio's, and this is going back 10-15 years. So i'm sure things have improved greatly in that feild.
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Post by 440roadrunner »

Ok, if this is a form of remote control, there are still restrictions. Unless this is out of date, you might want to read what I posted above. Some more from the same text:

I quote from the same reference:


§ 95.419 (CB Rule 19) May I operate my
CB station transmitter by remote
control?
(a) You may not operate a CB station
transmitter by radio remote control.
(b) You may operate a CB transmitter
by wireline remote control if
you obtain specific approval in writing
from the FCC. To obtain FCC approval,
you must show why you need to operate
your station by wireline remote
control. If you receive FCC approval,

you must keep the approval as part of
your station records. See CB Rule 27,
§ 95.427.
(c) Remote control means operation
of a CB transmitter from any place
other than the location of the CB
transmitter. Direct mechanical control
or direct electrical control by wire
from some point on the same premises,
craft or vehicle as the CB transmitter
is not considered remote control.
[48 FR 24894, June 3, 1983, as amended at 57
FR 40343, Sept. 3, 1992; 63 FR 68976, Dec. 14,
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Post by Batman »

440roadrunner wrote:(c) Remote control means operation
of a CB transmitter from any place
other than the location of the CB
transmitter. Direct mechanical control
or direct electrical control by wire
from some point on the same premises,
craft or vehicle as the CB transmitter
is not considered remote control.
[48 FR 24894, June 3, 1983, as amended at 57
FR 40343, Sept. 3, 1992; 63 FR 68976, Dec. 14,
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See above. it's located on the same premises :)
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Post by SlimBob »

Batman wrote:it's legal. I'm not connecting it to a PTSN for phone patches. I'm connecting it to a PBX/KSU for on site use by employees. Basically a expanded version of a DC Remote. I've seen this done in police stations with their Radio's, and this is going back 10-15 years. So i'm sure things have improved greatly in that feild.
I'm going to bite. Are you a GROL? Is this in accordance with all FCC rules? Are you the employer? This almost smacks of being a business use of a CB radio, but I can understand how a location like a truck stop or trucking firm could make use of a CB in a yard...
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Post by Batman »

This is for my house. I'm tired of having to run to the back room everytime my friend calls me on the phone and says get on the radio :)

as a side topic why is it becoming ever so impossible to get info from knowledgable people anymore.

what i would like to do is completely legal. ok. let's forget the legal discussions and concentrate on info i need to get the job done.
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Post by SlimBob »

Batman wrote:This is for my house. I'm tired of having to run to the back room everytime my friend calls me on the phone and says get on the radio :)
That's understandable.
Batman wrote: as a side topic why is it becoming ever so impossible to get info from knowledgable people anymore.

what i would like to do is completely legal. ok. let's forget the legal discussions and concentrate on info i need to get the job done.
Because, we can't just go around enabling those who would subvert the rules!

Unfortunately, I don't have much else to contribute to the thread. I do think it would be rather interesting, almost hilarious, to see a CB patched into a PBX.

Or a tone remote. :)
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SlimBob wrote:Unfortunately, I don't have much else to contribute to the thread. I do think it would be rather interesting, almost hilarious, to see a CB patched into a PBX.
I have a MICOM-X SSB radio that has an autopatch. It's not on a DID number, but could be dialed from on-switch. It's not too different from what is being proposed.

PS - The MICOM-X could be loaded with CB channels with a 150W output power
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Post by Batman »

yep :)

I know about the Micom and the Yaesu one also.

Prefer a Legal 4 Watt C.B. on 27MHz. I've been there and done that with the linears and you really don't gain much with them on these frequencies and modes. your better off improvong the antenna system and or mounting the radio in a pole mounted enclosure at the antenna. I use a Spectrum 1600 5/8 wave G.P. with a run of 7/8 inch hardline, a RS Navaho and a D104. I'd like to get a Moto Base C.B. to replace the navaho though.
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Post by Batman »

spareparts wrote:I have a MICOM-X SSB radio that has an autopatch. It's not on a DID number, but could be dialed from on-switch. It's not too different from what is being proposed.

PS - The MICOM-X could be loaded with CB channels with a 150W output power

hmmmmmmm. wonder if one of those Old CSI Simplex patches would work.
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Re: Interface 27 MHz C.B. Transceiver to KSU Phone System

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Did you ever get your CB hooked up?
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Re: Interface 27 MHz C.B. Transceiver to KSU Phone System

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never got all the parts together. i have since gone on to other projects. i ever get one of those csi boxes, i'll try it.

anyone care to donate one? :)

btw: talk about resurecting an old thread!
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Re: Interface 27 MHz C.B. Transceiver to KSU Phone System

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Sounds like you need a Cisco IPICS solution :D
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Re: Interface 27 MHz C.B. Transceiver to KSU Phone System

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Enough of this Lazarused post.
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