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Changing ASTRO Spectra Heads?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:10 pm
by fogster
First of all, I apologize for what's probably a stupid question, but I'm new to mobile stuff.

How easy is it to change control head 'types'? I'm seeing a lot of W9 radios, but need a small head to mount in my car. Is it as simple as buying another head and reprogramming?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:16 pm
by fogster
And, one better, where can I find the dimensions of the various head sizes? I might be able to make the W9 work, but I can't even go out and measure it.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:00 pm
by jmr061
On an astro spectra its not as simple as a swapping control heads. You must either have an s-rec for the head your going to be using that matches the rest of your radio or there are a few people out there that can modify the existing record to change head types.

Jason

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:02 am
by fogster
KB9KST wrote:You must either have an s-rec for the head your going to be using that matches the rest of your radio
So you just have to dump in a 'good' S-Record and you're good to go with the new head?

Also: are Spectra and ASTRO Spectra heads interchangeable? (E.g., would an A7 head work on an ASTRO Spectra?)

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:44 pm
by jmr061
If you get a good s-rec that is good but if you can't change the serial # your radio will take on the serial # of the s-rec.

Jason

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:09 pm
by fogster
KB9KST wrote:If you get a good s-rec that is good but if you can't change the serial # your radio will take on the serial # of the s-rec.
That's not a big deal, and is the current state of affairs of my ASTRO Saber, in fact. Although I've been wondering for a while: if you save an archive/codeplug (not an S-Record) in Lab and view it with a hex editor, it looks like it has the serial number right near the beginning. Has anyone ever tried just changing that and dumping it right back into the radio? Do you have checksums to worry about?

And just so my other question doesn't get overshadowed:

Are Spectra and ASTRO Spectra heads interchangeable? (E.g., would an A7 head work on an ASTRO Spectra?)

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:33 pm
by jmr061
No the A7/W7 head is not interchangable.

Jason

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:42 pm
by bellersley
The exception to that is the W9. You can convert an A9 head into a W9 head, all you need is a chip swap. IIRC, it isn't overly expensive, certainly less than a W9 head would be.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:44 pm
by bellersley
KB9KST wrote:If you get a good s-rec that is good but if you can't change the serial # your radio will take on the serial # of the s-rec.
Jason
You don't necessarily need an s-record. A codeplug with the correct head would work. If you use the clone screen, you can input your serial number, and using MTSX lab, you can dump it into your radio. It'll then have whatever s/n you entered, and will work with whatever head the codeplug is for.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:36 am
by fogster
bellersley wrote:If you use the clone screen, you can input your serial number, and using MTSX lab, you can dump it into your radio.
I never quite got the deal with MTSX lab. Why would you use it instead of ASTRO lab?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:35 am
by bellersley
You could use Astro lab as well, it's just that MTSX is more uh... available.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:56 am
by Pj
Something to take into consideration...

The W4/W5 radios will only support 128 channels. W7/W9 will do 255. Plan ahead..

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:15 am
by bellersley
So my W4 that does 255 channels is a figment of my imagination?

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:16 am
by jmr061
Its an easy hack, I can change it back to 128 if you like. :)

Jason

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:18 am
by bellersley
KB9KST wrote:I can change it back to 128 if you like.
I'm good ;)

Re: Changing ASTRO Spectra Heads?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:25 pm
by n3obl
would that lab trick work with a w4 vselp radio. I would like at least a w5.. (Want to loose the rotary knobs.)

Frank