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XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:52 pm
by libuff
anybody know the part number and list price for one of these units?
Re: XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:00 am
by escomm
No such item
Re: XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:11 am
by tvsjr
libuff - please use the search function before posting questions.
escomm - you better tell Motorola that WPLN4208 doesn't exist.
http://www.motorola.com/governmentanden ... MPRESS.pdf, check the last page.
List price is $390.
Re: XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:39 am
by escomm
That's not an Impres charger. It's Impres compatible. No smart charging, no conditioning, it only records that a charge has occurred. In fact it says so right there in the PDF.
So when the battery gets on a real Impres charger, the real Impres charger can do it's smart charging and drain down the battery and condition as necessary. Also, the trickle charge does not stop, unlike the real Impres chargers that will cut off the juice once the battery it is full.
The bottom line is that there is no genuine Impres charger for a vehicle.
Re: XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:51 am
by Alex663
escomm wrote:The bottom line is that there is no genuine Impres charger for a vehicle.
Sure there is....
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= XTS Mobile impres charger

Re: XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:53 am
by escomm
Note the emphasis

Re: XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:18 pm
by tvsjr
The PDF wrote:NEWEST ADDITION! IMPRES Compatible Vehicular Charger
The new IMPRES compatible vehicular charger has full IMPRES charger to battery communication capability.
This ensures continuity of IMPRES battery charge data logging in a vehicular environment, so the IMPRES
battery will receive adaptive, automatic reconditioning and will qualify for the 6-month capacity warranty
extension. It is important to note that the IMPRES compatible vehicular charger will not recondition IMPRES
batteries due to operational demand in a vehicle, but it will provide an indication when reconditioning is
required in an IMPRES desktop charger
It talks to the battery, keeps the adaptive reconditioning data current (even if it doesn't do reconditioning on its own), does smart charging (just no reconditioning), etc. It's good enough that Moto honors the 6-month warranty extension. I'd, therefore, say it's what Moto intended for use on impres batteries in a mobile environment.
Jeff - if you don't loosen your grip a bit, it's gonna turn blue and fall off.
Re: XTS Impres Mobile Charger
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:39 pm
by escomm
tvsjr wrote:does smart charging (just no reconditioning), etc.
No, it doesn't do smart charging. If it did smart charging you could leave it on the charger and the battery would not overheat from the trickle charge. Also, since the charger doesn't stop the charging the battery when it's full, it's safe to say that "full communication" is not really "full communication," more like "almost-full communication".
I've been through enough product classes to know that the anchor of the Impres system is the automatic maintenance, something this charger is wholly incapable of.
Also note that this charger is incapable of initializing a battery. Impres charging does not work effectively if the battery is not properly initialized. Keep in mind that initialization is not only necessary when the battery is brand new, but also if it has been more than 30 days since the last charge. A
real Impres charger can determine when the last init was, when the last charge was, and it will do its thing all by its lonesome.
It's good enough that Moto honors the 6-month warranty extension.
That's a marketing tactic, nothing more.
I'd, therefore, say it's what Moto intended for use on impres batteries in a mobile environment.
I agree, however there's a reason it's described as "Impres compatible" when the other 9 genuine Impres charger have the "compatibility" description conspicuously absent. The nomenclature in the catalog also makes no reference to it being an Impres charger.
At best, it's an Impres charger with one arm tied behind its back. Genuine Impres? No way.