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xts3000 vselp

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:12 pm
by fallspolice
Hello everyone!
I recently bought an xts3000, and had my radio guy program it to monitor a vselp system. I noticed the other day that while in scan mode the radio will jump from channel to channel, but there is no voice. I am able to key up and I hear the "beep beep" noise. Any ideas what this might be?
Thanks in advance for your help!

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:28 pm
by Josh
fallspolice wrote:Hello everyone!
I recently bought an xts3000, and had my radio guy program it to monitor a vselp system. I noticed the other day that while in scan mode the radio will jump from channel to channel, but there is no voice. I am able to key up and I hear the "beep beep" noise. Any ideas what this might be?
Thanks in advance for your help!
What's the flashcode?

I've never seen an XTS3k that will do VSELP, but that's not to say they don't exist somewhere in the land of ancient firmware. I've only seen Astro Sabers and Astro Spectra radios that could do it.

What it sounds to me is that you've got an IMBE radio, and while in trunking it will follow the control channel and go to the voice channel, it doesn't know what to do with the VSELP data stream, but may interpret it as error-filled IMBE and therefore not go back immediately to the control channel.

Also, if you are not an authorized user, which it sounds like you are not... otherwise the programmer would know if your radio could be used on the system or not, I'd be very wary of ever keying up.

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:57 pm
by Pj
I have not seen one, but somewhere I have a Motorola PDF that listed it as an option when it first came out. I think it was as short lived as the 512k 3000's.

What is the host/dsp/flashcode?

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:49 am
by caprice96
Sounds like he's trying to monitor the Cleveland, Ohio system. That's the only VSELP system left in existence that I know of.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=562

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:05 pm
by Josh
caprice96 wrote:Sounds like he's trying to monitor the Cleveland, Ohio system. That's the only VSELP system left in existence that I know of.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=562
Yeah, and it comes in pretty good across the lake sometimes on my ancient Astro Saber.

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:18 am
by MikeOxlong
Pj wrote:I have not seen one, but somewhere I have a Motorola PDF that listed it as an option when it first came out. I think it was as short lived as the 512k 3000's.
I can confirm that they do indeed exist.

I recently upgraded such a unit to IMBE since the demand for VSELP is long gone.

I'd guess he's got an IMBE radio which doesn't work too well with VSELP. The giveaway was the "recently purchased" line.

If he keeps keying up to test, it won't be long before he's got a radio that does neither VSELP or IMBE.

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:59 am
by fineshot1
caprice96 wrote:Sounds like he's trying to monitor the Cleveland, Ohio system. That's the only VSELP system left in existence that I know of.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=562
Trenton NJ still runs VSELP and Analog

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=719

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:58 pm
by caprice96
Ahh ha, I stand corrected.

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:06 pm
by Jason
MikeOxlong wrote:
Pj wrote:I have not seen one, but somewhere I have a Motorola PDF that listed it as an option when it first came out. I think it was as short lived as the 512k 3000's.
I can confirm that they do indeed exist.

I recently upgraded such a unit to IMBE since the demand for VSELP is long gone.

I'd guess he's got an IMBE radio which doesn't work too well with VSELP. The giveaway was the "recently purchased" line.

If he keeps keying up to test, it won't be long before he's got a radio that does neither VSELP or IMBE.


Yeah, you got that right.

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:11 pm
by n3obl
also Monroeville PA police has XTS3000 with VSELP

Lots of money just to have a simplex ch thats ""Secure""

Frank

Re: xts3000 vselp

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:04 pm
by Fuel4300
fineshot1 wrote:
caprice96 wrote:Sounds like he's trying to monitor the Cleveland, Ohio system. That's the only VSELP system left in existence that I know of.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=562
Trenton NJ still runs VSELP and Analog

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=719

...and xts3000s.