First Responder In Ontario Canada

jimmyotoole · Post by **jimmyotoole** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:03 pm

I am becoming a First Responder in Toronto, and was wondering what would be recomended, or legal what is legal lighting wise.
thanks
Jimmy

ESDA20 · Post by **ESDA20** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:06 pm

Here's what's legal.

First, go join the department, and get your first responder training. Have that certificate in your hand.

Next, look around at the other cars in the parking lot and see what they have. If no one else has lights, you probably don't need, or shouldn't have them. Even if you can, and no one else does, you'll more then likely be made fun of.

Then decide weither you want the liability of having lights on your vehicle. If you run into someone, even if it's not your fault, are you prepared to accept the consquences? Will your insurance cover your vehicle? Better call them and ask.

Next, ask your Chief after you get off probation. Running out, and getting lights before you have your certification or off probation is the quickest way of going from official, to loser.

jimmyotoole · Post by **jimmyotoole** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:13 pm

Thanks ESDA 20,
i am also going to be doing search and rescue up north where our cottage is, i am allowed a green rotator for that right?
In toronto, i need to see what sort of groups there are to join cause there is a full FD/EMS service, and i have my BTLS training

Aces-Warehouse · Post by **Aces-Warehouse** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:15 pm

As far as I was aware, Green is a federally regulated color and completely illegal on civilian vehicles.....

Cam · Post by **Cam** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:17 pm

Just a note, what ESDA20 said is alwell and good, but there is one problem. He say "Here's what's legal" and tells you to look at other cars in the parking lot. What I would do is look at the LAW as it is written. I've seen many cases were departmants will use colors that they legaly can't use and nothing happens to them. That's fine, but if I were you I would look up the law mayself, as it will be you that gets in troble, not the other cars in the parking lot.

You never know, the "but everone else has it" may not work. Cover your own ass.

Cam

Cam · Post by **Cam** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:18 pm

Aces-Warehouse wrote:As far as I was aware, Green is a federally regulated color and completely illegal on civilian vehicles.....

In what country? I can't think of any in NA that this is the case.

ESDA20 · Post by **ESDA20** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:21 pm

The most important law is your chief's.

But yes, you're right, whateveryone has is not always correct. But I garuntee if no one else on the department has lights, and you suddenly roll in with your blinking green light, everyone will start laughing.

Again, I think the most important (besides the whole law thing and not getting arrested for illegal lights) is your insurance.

Canada uses green lights in some places for fire/ems. I don't have a clue what the rules are for permits/permission.

apco25 · Post by **apco25** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:11 pm

oh god the light topic has started again........................

WILL IT EVER END!

lol

thebigphish · Post by **thebigphish** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:56 pm

r0f wrote:In most places throughout North America, GREEN is used to signify a command-post vehicle.

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STATIONARY GREEN is used to signify a command-post vehicle. CT has adopted volunteer ambulance POV responders to use green while RESPONDING to calls.

Post by **alex** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:04 pm

apco25 wrote:oh god the light topic has started again........................

WILL IT EVER END!

lol

Yup.

I don't even see the point to this thread here. Completly off topic.

-Alex