2004 Ford F150 install

PriorityOne · Post by **PriorityOne** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:18 am

Recently did a install on a brand new 2004 Ford F150 SuperCab. http://www.geocities.com/priorityonestrobes/f150

EOppegaard · Post by **EOppegaard** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:28 am

exceeded data transfer...well that sucks.

If they are just pics, PM me and I can host them for ya...someone else will probably beat me too it though.

Ohh Ohh...what about the new batlabs picture posting thingy....I remember reading that post somewhere.

Sorry, I get excited way too easily

007 · Post by **007** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:58 pm

Not bad overall.

From the looks of a couple pics, the good LT. is using the Icom ham rig as a department radio. It is not type accepted for LMR use, however....75w or not, it's not Part 90 compliant.

Sorry to sound like a hamsexy radio cop, but that's what LMR radios are for.

PriorityOne · Post by **PriorityOne** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:25 pm

Personally I see nothing wrong with using this unit for public safety purposes.
Icom has made an excellent radio and the mod to TX on public safety freqs is made publicly available, and Icom doesn't really seem to care. On top of this the application is for a 100% volunteer EMS worker, and when comparing rigs price wise the Icom always wins.

EOppegaard · Post by **EOppegaard** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:16 pm

I side with both of you...however legally...it isn't type accepted for LMR use.

I know that even though all of my ham rigs can be used and modified for use on "out of band" frequencies, however that doesn't make it entirely legal...

Good install though, nice seeing to covert look...what type of switches are those next to the blue LED? Is the LED some kind of indicator light for system power? Or more of just that lightsexyness

PriorityOne · Post by **PriorityOne** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:01 pm

The entire install is completley covert. No lights are visible until turned on. The LED in the switches is for illumination at night with a little lightsexyness added to it. The switches are standard SPST rockers. The "trunk-lid" antenna mount on the hood lip is the way to go on these trucks, when drilling is not an easily swallowed option. They work hella good compared to "L" brackets and IMO look better. Here are some video shots: Front and Rear

krsdog25 · Post by **krsdog25** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:08 pm

Um well geee the um technical specs of the broadcast bandwith um is technically um illegal as per FCC Title 32 section B subparagraph 12 line 2 and well gosh that could really hurt a lot of people um having that um radio.

Sheezzus you are a freakin panty-waist! The guy is obviously a trained rescue professional using the radio for its intended purpose. Show me the page in the Icom manual that says this radio is intended for Hamsexy Ham operators only! A radio is a radio and its used for talking to people and seeing as how emergency personel dont need any type of licensure through the FCC, tell me who is going to come get this guy and for what offense?

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:04 pm

Gee, welcome to the forum, you're off to a wonderful start

krsdog25 · Post by **krsdog25** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:43 pm

Hey might need to put your coke-bottles on next time so you can spell correctly

krsdog25 · Post by **krsdog25** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:45 pm

Oh yeah, and where is the answer to my question out of curiosity?

thebigphish · Post by **thebigphish** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:52 pm

you're right, emergency PEOPLE don't need licensure for operations, but their EQUIPMENT has to be licensed and operated within the bounds of their FCC license status. The lieut who has that radio in there isn't licensed for it, but the FD with the FCC callsign IS, and it's their license that dictates what they can use. If the equipment that they are using isn't type-accepted for use, and their licecense is Part90, then yes...they are using illegal equipment on a FCC governed frequency. Sure it's probably not hurting anyone, but it does open them for a fine.

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:58 pm

This guy's gonna last real long. Anyone want to start a pool on how long it takes him to say "Fine, I'm leaving!" or get banned?

krsdog25 · Post by **krsdog25** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:41 pm

First of all smart guy, the individual department isn't licensed it's the county. Second, the county is licensed on everything from low to ultra-high. Third, where is the FCC meter-maid thats gonna come write every vollie in the state for their "um illegal um out of band radios"? Hmm can you do ham on a HT750, yep; how about the HT1250, yep; etc. So you better bring an awfully large ticket book and have a good 5 to 10 years to kill if you're gonna be the one writin all these tickets.

"Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics; no matter who wins you're still retarded."

DevilDoc · Post by **DevilDoc** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:00 pm

krsdog25 wrote:First of all smart guy, the individual department isn't licensed it's the county. Second, the county is licensed on everything from low to ultra-high. Third, where is the FCC meter-maid thats gonna come write every vollie in the state for their "um illegal um out of band radios"? Hmm can you do ham on a HT750, yep; how about the HT1250, yep; etc. So you better bring an awfully large ticket book and have a good 5 to 10 years to kill if you're gonna be the one writin all these tickets.

"Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics; no matter who wins you're still retarded."

Um I am trying to understand what your saying here.

The FCC type accepts radios for a certain use. Amateur Radios are type accepted for....yep you guessed it Amateur Radio. You can modify a Amateur Radio to transmit "out of band" but it is not type accepted to do so and hence is not legal. You can modify them for MARS/Cap use but you need a license to do so.

Commercial radios like the one's you described are type accepted for commercial AND amateur radio use. So using that Moto Spectra on the ham bands is legal. Talking on 151.899 on your Icom 2720 isn't. Unless your using in on MARS/CAP frequencies.

Second, the county is licensed on everything from low to ultra-high

Wrong a county is licensed the same way a individual is. A counties license is specific and does not give them carte blanche on every frequency from HF to UHF.

First of all smart guy, the individual department isn't licensed it's the county

This is also incorrect. Individual departments are licensed separate from the county. Medics ambulance is a good example of this. They serve the county in which there stationed yet are licensed for use on there own frequencies.

The FCC is cracking down on dealers selling non type accepted radios. A 125,000 dollar fine was just levied against a dealer selling CB radios that were not type accepted to operate on the amature radio bands. While the FCC is probaly not going to catch every one using non type accepted. If the FCC ever inspectes your station and you have modified amature radios in your possesion your going to get fined.

thebigphish · Post by **thebigphish** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:22 pm

krsdog25 wrote:First of all smart guy, the individual department isn't licensed it's the county.

at least you got my title right. up here, all our depts are individually licensed. (most of them are)

krsdog25 wrote: "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics; no matter who wins you're still retarded."

your dribble cup is ready.

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:50 pm

Now now guys. Remember, obviously the way it is where he lives is obviously the way it must be everywhere else on this continent.

They say ignorance is bliss. This guy must euphoric.

krsdog25 · Post by **krsdog25** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:53 pm

Maybe thats how they do out in Kansas but here on the East coast the individual depts. are not licensed, guess how i know that, I'm the head of one of those depts. Second, you are wrong again with the county comment, cause our county is licensed on all three bands becasue it opperates on all three bands. Third, tell me how the FCC is going to go into someones personal vehicle during a "station inspection", when they would kinda need a warrant? Maybe you should realize that how it is where you are isn't the gold standard across the country. Heck its a different setup depending on the county you're in here, so before you go tellin me I'm wrong you might want to take that lil fact into consideration.

krsdog25 · Post by **krsdog25** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:58 pm

Now everyone go put on their official ARES reflective vest and go get in the way somewhere else. Hey come on down to my neck of the woods, I would love to have you thrown out of my scene. lol

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:05 pm

Dude, you are an idiot if you think that is how the entire east coast works. That is the most convoluted statement I have heard yet. But keep digging your own hole if you wish. You just just threw down the shovel and rented a backhoe.

And by the way, you are certainly not the only real emergency services official here, so lose the holier than thou attitude.

Post by **HumHead** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:08 pm

OK Folks- Knock it off.

The topic is locked. Please do not re-start it.