your take on this -- MTR2000 vs GR1225

GAT A2 SKI · Post by **GAT A2 SKI** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:17 am

hey y'all

I have gotten tasked with yet another project... look at the feasibility of keeping our current repeater (mtr2000) or replacing it with a Gr1225...

I dont know a whole lot yet about the MTR thats currently in place but i have seen it briefly and it looks at least 4 yrs old... what i need to know is parts still available, cost factor in repairing versus just replacing the unit....

need a quick and dirty answer so that i can give my boss one

thanks
john

psapengineer · Post by **psapengineer** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:28 am

The MTR2000 is still being manufactured today; it is a current product. It is also capable of meeting the next narrow-banding step for the FCC. It is in my opinion a better quality repeater than the GR1225. Clearly, keep it.
Regards, Bob

Post by **xmo** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:06 am

Bob's right.

The GR1225 is a toy compared to the MTR.

A GR with duplexer and programming goes for maybe $1500. An MTR and duplexer with programming is probably closer to $10K

You could sell your used MTR on ebay and easy get enough to buy two GR1225's and have money left over.

GAT A2 SKI · Post by **GAT A2 SKI** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:22 am

What is the cost factor on repair and servicing the MTR????

John

Post by **wavetar** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:01 pm

GAT A2 SKI wrote:What is the cost factor on repair and servicing the MTR????

John

The MTR2000 is not considered 'field repairable' by Motorola. Repair consists of swapping the defective part with the applicable FRU (field replaceable unit). The power supply module, PA module & receiver module are all examples of a FRU. The pricing is going to vary according to which FRU you need, and whether your organisation has any sort of pricing agreement with Motorola. Honestly though, your MTR could very well run another 10 years with nary a problem. They are super reliable continuous duty units. I'd take one 4-year old unit over two NEW GR1225 units any day.

Todd

PETNRDX · Post by **PETNRDX** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:36 pm

Keep the MTR.
Its very unlikely that it will need repair unless it gets hit by lightning or crushed in an earthquake.
Its 10 times the quality of the GR.

PETNRDX · Post by **PETNRDX** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:37 pm

Keep the MTR.
Its very unlikely that it will need repair unless it gets hit by lightning or crushed in an earthquake.
Its 10 times the quality of the GR.

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:02 pm

Lets try this... Is there something wrong with the MTR right now?? If it is working fine, then LEAVE IT. You would be downgrading to put a GR1225 in it's place. If you are having problems, don't just assume it is the repeater. There are a lot of failure points that can cause general poor performance....

Power supply
Wireing from P/S to radio
And local mics or tone remotes
Coax & connectors from radio to duplexor
Coax & connectors from duplexor to antenna
Lightning protection equipment
Antenna itself
Grounding of all of the above
Proper mounting of all of the above.

Post by **batdude** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:38 pm

here's my take

whoever recommended to you that you should/could/might replace the MTR with the GR1225 needs a nice swift shot in the nutz

or if it's a girl, a punch in the boob.

honestly, it's absolutely silly to put those two products in the same league.

one is designed for PUBLIC SAFETY demands (MTR)

the other is designed for mobile job-site construction / farm comms

doug

MSS-Dave · Post by **MSS-Dave** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:14 am

whoever recommended to you that you should/could/might replace the MTR with the GR1225 needs a nice swift shot in the nutz

I have a lot of experience with both and I was going to comment but I think Batdude summed it up better than I could...

GR1225 = Radius low tier

MTR2000 = mid tier public safety rated

Quantar = high tier public safety rated

You'se gets whats 'ya pay for!

Dave

Post by **xmo** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:34 pm

Well, I guess I made the right desision.

When I first saw this question I thought "Hey, I could offer to trade this guy a BRAND NEW GR1225 for that four year old MTR P.O.S."

The thing is - my folks took me to church every Sunday, I was in the Boy Scouts, etc. Just couldn't bring myself to do it.

Besides - the rest of you wouldn't have let me get away with it anyway.

Oh, well....

MSS-Dave · Post by **MSS-Dave** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:08 pm

n1pfc · Post by **n1pfc** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:49 pm

Definately keep the MTR.... after working with both for a while now, the MTR DEFINATELY is a much better repeater than the 1225 could ever hope to be. Even if you add just about every single option to the 1225, the MTR is still better all around.

Motorola sells the 1225 with an optional 100W amp (which is TPL). With the MTR, it's built in.

The receiver on the MTR is also light years ahead of the 1225.

The MTR also fits in a much smaller rack footprint than the 1225 when configured with the 100W option.

Configuration wise, the MTR gives you much more versatility than the 1225 as well.

Kurt