Spectra, Still problems...

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Dougdeutsch
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Spectra, Still problems...

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First, thanks to all of you who told me about the ignition sense line. I applied power to the line (pin 5) and the radio came to life. The life however I would liken to that of a medical patient on life support.

When the display came on it went into the "self test" than "FL 01/90" followed by "FL 49/90". The later, FL 49/90" only displayed one time.

The radio now is in a loop going from "self test" to "FL 01/90". I see that on Batlabs that you can play around with the voltage but I really don't wat to screw this thing up.

Is it possible to get out of this loop??? If not, can someone refer me to someone I can send this radio to ???

Thanks again for any and all help.

Take care,

Doug
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Re: Spectra, Still problems...

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[quote="Dougdeutsch"]First, thanks to all of you who told me about the ignition sense line. I applied power to the line (pin 5) and the radio came to life. The life however I would liken to that of a medical patient on life support.

When the display came on it went into the "self test" than "FL 01/90" followed by "FL 49/90". The later, FL 49/90" only displayed one time.

The radio now is in a loop going from "self test" to "FL 01/90". I see that on Batlabs that you can play around with the voltage but I really don't wat to screw this thing up.

Is it possible to get out of this loop??? If not, can someone refer me to someone I can send this radio to ???

Thanks again for any and all help.

Take care,

Doug[/quote]



First of all, I would guess that you may have one of the dual radio government setups that are floating around. By any chance does the radio have a HHCH (hand held control head)? Do you have the SIU (serial interface unit) between the radio and the hand mic? Do you also have the DES box between the radio and the SIU?

The error code 49/90 kind of indicates a dual radio setup with the second radio having a problem. In other words, it's looking for the second radio.

The 01/90 is a serial bus failure. This could be from a number of things. Most of the time it is caused by a siren not being connected. In the dual radio setup from the government, it may be looking for a DES box.

You need to supply more info on your radio.

Jim
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spectra

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I had the same trouble after relocating a Spectra last week. It flashed FL01/90 then cycled off and back on. Turned out I stupidly left out the fuse for the main power and only the orange and green wires to the head were powered. Replace fuse, radio works. Do you have the orange and green from the head? Both need power.
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fail 01/90

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Fail 01/90 is most commonly caused by low voltage in the cases I've encountered. A Fail 08/10 is for a siren unit programmed but not connected. Is your PS putting out a constant 13.8 volts?
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i am geting 01/90 also, i have 13.8 going to the radio can someone help, or new anything i can do to get out of this? :cry:
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What did you do just prior to getting the 01/90, nypdcar1? What spectra are we talking about?
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it was a a3 converted to a a9
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There is a smt fuse on the command board. If it goes (usually by grounding a speaker lead) you may very well get a fail 01/90...
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P.S. to last post. It is NOT a smt fuse (befuddled by age), it's a pico fuse, 3, 4, or 5 amp. look for a little green peanut about half an inch long.
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test fuse ok :( now what :(
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Check all cabling connections, Check the solder joints at the cable connection in the control head and drawer, Check the power connection at the drawer unit. Fail 01/90 is the ultimate generic fail code in a spectra . We use A-9 Spectras and Fail 01/90 is a common occurance 7 out of 10 times it is low voltage occuring upon startup but if the radio fails and the drawer is connected to constant power you physically have to remove power from the drawer to reset the radio. Connect the drawer and head to the same switched power source (buss from a 200 amp relay in my case) and have not had a problem since. 3 out of 10 times it is physical damage to the equipment or a failure of a component.

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nypdcar1 wrote:it was a a3 converted to a a9
Ok, this may be a dumb question... A3 is the handheld control head, no? You would have had to have changed... the MLM I think to go to A9 as A3 models are missing IC's right? I'm not sure what exactly you had to change, but I am pretty sure you have to change either MLM or control board to make any other head work. So with some more details maybe someone can get to bottom of problem. If you changed MLM, control board, or both. You will need to fix the model number with speclab. The MLM and control board have to match. In any case, how 'bout a step by step description of what you have done to get to this point?

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I guess I should have read the posts more carefully. I didn't know a control head swap had taken place. Does the original head work ?
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Thanks to all that helped me. i replace the interface boad and the mlm and bitbang the command board, now it is all working

only thing i need now is 2 a9 110 watt interface boad, thats the board that you hook the head and the RSS cable up to.
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nypdcar1 wrote:Thanks to all that helped me. i replace the interface boad and the mlm and bitbang the command board, now it is all working

only thing i need now is 2 a9 110 watt interface boad, thats the board that you hook the head and the RSS cable up to.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if that is what you're looking for, you're looking for a 50 watt/mid-power remote board. Your radio is a 50 watt, not a 110 watt. This is a 110 watt unit, strictly remote mount. This is what you have, a dash mount unit converted for a remote mount.
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This Is what I am looking for, the one on the 110 watt unit, it’s just a long pc board behind the case with a computer ribbon that attach to the command board



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part number HLN6227A
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Same problem here with the 01/90

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I got the same problem. I heard that someone on the site here said something about [audio/pa] and on mine I have the "hear clear Board" that doe's go to a an "Audio Pa-U540" I going to take that out and see what happen's..by the way mine was also a 'gov' radio, I'll see what happen's...anyone else have any Idea's on the "hear Clear board" that could cause the problem????
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