I have a 15 channel 800MHz SMR, and am looking at replacing the amplifiers used on the 4 control channels...just for giggles.
Has anyone had experience with aftermarket amplifiers in this type of system? It would be nice if they were the same size and mount so they would install in the hole in the cabinet left by the old amp.
Oh yeah, the MSF5K's are 75 watt units.
Thanks,
Sam
replacement amps for MSF5000 800MHz?
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replacement amps for MSF5000 800MHz?
"The state of the art may well have exceeded the state of the need"
My two bits worth:
What is wrong with the MSF amplifier?
I have worked on literally hundreds of these, and I can only recall replacing one transistor module on a 800 meg MSF.
I have spare transistor modules.
I have had some problems with solder on the A+ distribution board, but that was about 15 years ago.
I have one system that only has one control channel, and it has run for years with no problem.
What is wrong with the MSF amplifier?
I have worked on literally hundreds of these, and I can only recall replacing one transistor module on a 800 meg MSF.
I have spare transistor modules.
I have had some problems with solder on the A+ distribution board, but that was about 15 years ago.
I have one system that only has one control channel, and it has run for years with no problem.
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Hi Bernie,
It's a matter of due diligence. The system is pretty much 100% used by two large industrial clients, and employee safety is a major concern.
They are willing to fund the replacement, for preventative maintenance purposes.
Who am I to argue?
Thanks for your input however, I agree that the MSF is one of the best products /\/\ ever sent out of the factory.
Sam
It's a matter of due diligence. The system is pretty much 100% used by two large industrial clients, and employee safety is a major concern.
They are willing to fund the replacement, for preventative maintenance purposes.
Who am I to argue?
Thanks for your input however, I agree that the MSF is one of the best products /\/\ ever sent out of the factory.
Sam
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Duely Noted, thanks guys.
To go a little deeper, the MSF system is a backup system, the primary system was converted to Quantars a couple of years ago, and the MSF units moved to another location to serve as backups.
Any comments about Quantar amps?
To go a little deeper, the MSF system is a backup system, the primary system was converted to Quantars a couple of years ago, and the MSF units moved to another location to serve as backups.
Any comments about Quantar amps?
"The state of the art may well have exceeded the state of the need"
Quantar PA's are a different story. Not as reliable as MSF PA's.
They cost a lot to replace. They aren't really field repairable. The depot exchange and flat rate repair charges are pretty stiff. And, since the PA is a smart component that is integrated into the station diagnostics it probably isn't an easy matter to substitute an aftermarket replacement.
We had a discussion here some time back about the issue of the Quantar PA reliability. It seems that on lightly loaded channels they almost never fail. Also, when used on a continuously keyed control channel, they almost never fail. The ones that seem to give the most trouble are on channels that get heavy loading at some times of the day.
The theory is that they heat up under traffic and then cool down - the constant heating and cooling takes its toll and eventually the amp fails.
Some users have chosen to leave the stations keyed with local PTT all the time. The trunking controller ignores that local PTT condition and the PA stays hot all the time - maybe extending the time between repairs [but using more of your AC power!]
They cost a lot to replace. They aren't really field repairable. The depot exchange and flat rate repair charges are pretty stiff. And, since the PA is a smart component that is integrated into the station diagnostics it probably isn't an easy matter to substitute an aftermarket replacement.
We had a discussion here some time back about the issue of the Quantar PA reliability. It seems that on lightly loaded channels they almost never fail. Also, when used on a continuously keyed control channel, they almost never fail. The ones that seem to give the most trouble are on channels that get heavy loading at some times of the day.
The theory is that they heat up under traffic and then cool down - the constant heating and cooling takes its toll and eventually the amp fails.
Some users have chosen to leave the stations keyed with local PTT all the time. The trunking controller ignores that local PTT condition and the PA stays hot all the time - maybe extending the time between repairs [but using more of your AC power!]
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How many msf5k pa do you need also how many quantar pa and other parts could you use have lots of them on hand let me know will make you a sweet deal on what you need!