HT1000 'A' to 'B' revision "remote" upgrade

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ku4zs1
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HT1000 'A' to 'B' revision "remote" upgrade

Post by ku4zs1 »

I have an 'A' revision UHF HT1000 (an R bandsplit 403-470)that I need to codeplug upgrade to the 'B' revision. I want to see if someone with the Lab RSS can "remotely" upgrade my HT1000.

My assumptions are that since the codeplug contains radio tuning information, you have to start with the codeplug from the radio first. This codeplug must be cloned with the channel information from a 'B' revision radio (which copies all of the channel info, signalling options and so forth from the 'B' radio but not the 'B' radio's tuning information). This new codeplug is dumped into the 'A' radio to enable some of the programming options available to 'B' radios. Any chance of this being done remotely? Here are the steps that I would imagine would need to take place.

At my location:
1) read radio with RSS
2) save codeplug
3) upload codeplug to someone with Lab RSS

Remote location:
1) receive codeplug from me
2) clone my radio from the codeplug of a 'B' revision radio
3) save codeplug
4) upload codeplug to me

At my location:
1) receive codeplug from remote user
2) write codeplug (Will this step fail with the regular RSS?)
3) *assuming radio is now set as a 'B'* read codeplug back and edit in all your channels


Would this work? If it would, can anyone try it for me?
Will
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Post by Will »

I think you are thinking of putting (forcing) a later 'codeplug' into your radio.

For sure you need to read ALL the alignment 'Softpot' settings, write them down on a sheet of paper so you can restore them back. Putting in another codeplug will overwrite these values.
ku4zs1
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Post by ku4zs1 »

Yes this is basically what I am saying to do. I got this information from the HT1000 page. Here is what it reads
Upgrading HT1000's With LAB RSS

Using LAB RSS for these radios, you may be able to add some programming features to your HT1000.

You need an "A" version radio and a codeplug from the same model of a "B" version radio.

Using the LAB RSS, clone the "B" version codeplug into your "A" version radio.

If you're lucky, you may end up with few more button programming options.
It says to clone the "B" version codeplug into the "A" version radio. Just curious tho. If I DO write down all the softpot settings and then just force a "B" codeplug into the radio, and make sure not to key the radio up before re-entering the softpot settings, would that work? If so, then why does the HT1000 page say you need the Lab RSS?

If that won't work, then I would basically be following the same steps as listed above, but I would have someone else do the cloning with the Lab RSS. I would just write the new codeplug back.
Will
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Post by Will »

"why does the HT1000 page say you need the Lab RSS? "

The lab software does not restrict some codeplugs by checking against what is already in the radio. So it will allow a simmular code plug to be written ('stuffed into') your radio. The software may even allow you to "jam in" the wrong codeplug.. be carefull.

After writing in the later model code plug turn off the radio and disconnect the pgm cable. Shut down the lab, software.

Fire up the RSS, connect the radio, ect;. Then go to the Service section and thru ALL the alignment steps putting the same value back into each "calibration" softpot . This will restore all the alignment points as they were.
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Post by ku4zs1 »

Ok, so I got my hands on a "B" codeplug. I wrote down every one of the softpot settings for my radio, and tried to cram this "B" codeplug in with the regular (not Lab) RSS and that didnt work. It would not let me write it because it said the model numbers didnt match. So this idea is scrapped. Must have the Lab RSS and can't do this remotely :(
Will
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Post by Will »

I would hope someone here would step forward and help you. Anyone?
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HT1000 upgrade...

Post by AEC »

Hello:

I'll have a look at what I have in stock, I may have the 'stuff' you require, Email direct and we'll go from there, can't offer anything here and I don't need that message under my name for sure!

I'm certain we'll be able to work around your trouble.....


73!


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Nand
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Post by Nand »

This is not necessarily what you are looking for, but is interesting just the same.

Using the cloning cable, one can clone an A or a B version radio into a C or D version radio. If the A or B version is a 16 channel model and the C or D is only 2 channel model, the 2 channel model will now be 16 channel model as well and downgraded to the lower version.
The tuning data may need to be verified. The TX and RX frequencies are cloned correctly. I don’t know if a B version will clone into an A version radio with the cloning cable, but it is worth a try.

Nand.
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