XTS5000III

Nexrad16 · Post by **Nexrad16** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:22 pm

Is it FPP?

Thanks!

BPD109 · Post by **BPD109** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:23 pm

Nexrad16 · Post by **Nexrad16** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:30 pm

Alpha as well or is it like the HT1550?

jnglmassiv · Post by **jnglmassiv** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:28 pm

Whoa, whoa...
Only specially flashed XTS5ks are face programmable. 99% of them don't have that option enabled.

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:36 pm

Who do you suspect has the other 1%?????

SG

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:00 pm

Mostly Uncle Sam. Probably more than 1% though.

BPD109 · Post by **BPD109** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:05 pm

Well, not like he asked for specifics!!

Post by Pj » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:19 pm

Yes, but according to CPS, you also lose half of the maximum channels in the radio (250 vs 512 or 8xx)

Post by **xmo** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:15 am

There are two FPP options available for the XTS5000:

Q52 - Federal Government Front Panel Programming Enhancement

Q53 - FCC Conventional Front Panel Programming and Radio Cloning

Motorola is very serious about not selling you the Q52 option unless you are a Federal Government customer.

Q53 requires the cloning do-dad be attached to enable FPP.

Nexrad16 · Post by **Nexrad16** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:56 pm

What the difference in the two options?

Post by Pj » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:40 pm

Just what XMO stated.

In simplier terms...

Its the same thing as the JT1000 process. The feds don't need a "programming key", but everyone else does.

Current FCC regs prohibit any commerical radio programming to be able to be changed "on the fly" like a ham radio. By needing a hardware programming key (attaches to the accessory connector), you comply (although loosely) with the regs. The government being the govt, it doesn't apply to them.

Nexrad16 · Post by **Nexrad16** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:12 pm

Oh got ya on that. I thought that one might allow for more fpp that the other. The old JT thing

So can alph be done via fpp? Or is it like the HT1550? Freqs, pl, etc.

ai4ui · Post by **ai4ui** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:20 pm

With XTS FPP you can change:

tx freq
rx freq
tx pl
rx pl
tx dpl
rx dpl
tx nac
rx nac
rx type (analog/digital/mixed)
tx type (analog/digital)
bandwidth (25/12.5 khz)
channel name
zone name

very easy to work with, no silly dongle or programming battery...

or so I've heard

but you do loose 272 channels, only 15 zones of 16 channels.

RG

Nexrad16 · Post by **Nexrad16** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:47 pm

The reason I ask is for wildfire. Often on lg fires with multiple agencies and thus multiple freqs. Having fpp with the ability to alpha tag is nice. One then does not have to ref. a piece of paper all the time.

The BK radio's are good for fpp including alpha but they do not like any moisture. Being that my agency does both wildfire and structural it would be nice to have one radio that say, "does it all." The /\/\'s radio family deals with water pretty well compared to the BK's.

Anyway that's why I ask. Of course when we go to the 700t we'll absolutely need two radio's as the USFS/BLM will not make the 700 jump.

So much for InnerOp.

USGOVTECH · Post by **USGOVTECH** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:52 am

Hello All,

The XTS FPP and FCC option are firmware options. You do not need a Special Key or Dongle program the radio. As long as the radio has the FPP option then the radio can be field programmed. These options are being sold to Federal agencies who have the need for field proramming. I work with these radios on a Daily Basis. Any other questions.

Post by Pj » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:21 pm

They are FLASHport options.

The FCC Q53 option DOES require the "programming key" to be attached to the radio in order for the FPP feature to work. The government Q52 option does not.

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:37 pm

Should be able to do the same internal mod to a 5K that was done to a JT to avoid using the key on the side, just a guess though.

SG

Post by Pj » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:58 am

Would be interesting to see whats inside of the 5k key. With all these ibuttons, ESN's etc, who knows what M might have done. Of couse, the JT mod axed the use of the speaker mic. The software mod was easier