Saber Non-Priority Scan? Disable Sampling??

[kb0nly]

Another Saber question that i can't find an answer to on here, nor can i figure out. And i have been reading through the RSS manual and tried reprogramming the radio so many times i'm sick of trying.

How the heck do you disable the Priority scan on a Saber? I just want plain old simple non-priority scan like i had on my MT1000.

I disabled everything i can find, the Priority 1 is blank in the scan lists, and its not set for the priority to follow the channel select under mode slaved scan in radio feature options.

But, despite that, when scanning and stopped on the active channel its annoying as heck because its still doing the priority sampling. A click a second in the audio, chunk chunk chunk chunk chunk chunk... You get the point. Obviously it's still checking a priority. So i experimented, i put the radio on a channel and turned on the scan and transmitted with another radio on that same channel, no sampling dropouts, then i changed it to another channel and turned scan on again and while still transmitting with another radio on the initial channel i hear the chunk chunk chunk sampling dropout. It appears that while disabled it's still assigning priority 1 to the currently selected channel when i start the scan.

So how do you disable Priority entirely on the Saber??

[AEC]

Scott:
Did you uncheck 'Priority follows channel selector' in F4?

If that is still checked, whatever channel the selector is on, will be the priority.


In selectable scan, do not enter a chanel in the TX MODE section, that is the priority for that version of scanning also.

Same goes for 2nd priority.....leave blank.


[MENU] X times to get to SCAN, then Select once then enter to get selectable scan....

MENU X 5 for SCAN, then SELECT twice then ENTER to get MODE slaved scan.

But you knew that already

[kb0nly]

Yes, as i mentioned Priority follows channel selector is NOT enabled, that was the very first thing i checked.

There is no tx mode set.

And on the scan lists the Priority 1 is just blank __/__ for each scan list. I tried putting zeros in them also but it just keeps going back to blank.

And i'm talking about a Saber II so no user programmable scan, just mode slaved scan to deal with.

Also, Priority 2 is not enabled.

The only features turned on for the scan is H344 Mode Slaved Scan, and then i also selected Nuisance Delete. Nothing else enabled.

The priority sampling is annoying!

[AEC]

I just toyed with a Saber II here...and I have the same thing...it has to be due to the method the radio uses to scan, I can't stop the sound either...nothing enabled, and I'm only scanning 4 channels....even with 2, the sampling sound is still present...only minimized.

The rate at which the radio scans has to be tied to the controller and how it's masked that controls the scan rates.

From what I noticed, I consider the sound to be a 'go around' sound...like starting from 1, then running around the track to end at 1...simple explanation really, but that's what this appears to be, to me at least.

Just like the GP300/P110 radios...the scanning action and rate is timing controlled...more channels scanned....greater noise from the controller, the Saber's scan rates must also be timed identically.

Enterprise.....One to beam up!

[kb0nly]

That's what i thought it was at first to, the sound of it cycling, but it's not, it's sampling a priority channel yet.

Try this, the same experiment i did...

Create a zone with 6 channels, put channel 6 as your local NOAA weather radio station so you have a 100% active channel, then create a scan list for that zone with all 6 channels.

Put the radio on channel 1 and turn on scan, it will stop on the active channel, in this case the NOAA weather channel, and you will hear the sampling dropout.

Now, put the radio on channel 6 and then turn on the scan, you won't hear the sampling sound!

This tells me that it's still following the channel select as a priority channel despite it being disabled. Otherwise you would still hear the sampling dropout on channel six while scanning.

With it setup this way i also tried another experiment. I put the channel select on channel 3, in my case 146.550, and then turned on scan. It of course stopped on the active channel 6 with NOAA, then i transmitted with another radio on 146.550 and it reverted back to channel 3 and there was no sampling dropout while listening to the signal i was transmitting.

It's functioning perfectly if i wanted Priority scan, but i don't! So, i take it there is NO way to disable priority scan permanently on the Saber??

[Tom in D.C.]

I follow every thing you've written about this and I come to the conclusion that
if you COULD disable the priority scan there would probably be an entry/
control for this in the options menu, like there is for almost everything else.
My first reaction when I started reading the thread was "did he remember to
put nothing in the priority scan entry in the scan list?" but you did, so it has to
be part of the radio's firmware that it scans for SOME kind of priority even when
you haven't set a priority scan channel.

[kb0nly]

Yep, unfortunately i spent a lot of time with the rss manual, and the rss and the radio, trying to figure it out before posting here. So i covered all the options, so to speak.

Evidently there is no way to disable priority scan.

The only thing that turning on "Priority follows channel selector" does is cause the radio to beep and flash the display when a signal is received on the priority channel. If you disable this option it still follows the channel selector as the priority but it doesn't beep or flash the alert.

[n0vek]

We are having the same problem here also. No matter what you turn off in the RSS it still checks for a priority channel.

Now on mine when it stops on a channel without PL it just shows Scanning, the audio comes through but it is still checking priority even with a active channel present. With a PL it will show the channel name.

[PropellorHead]

Ok, so this is what I have noticed with my saber...

If the channel has a PL programmed I get no clunks or sampling noises...

I have a complete zone of 12 FD channels...they all have a PL, and no matter what channel the radio has stopped on (pri or non-pri) it give me clear audio till the radio has stopped all RX.

Now I also have a complete 12 channel zone with FD channels, only this time they're all CSQ. I get sampling on every channel, pri or not.

So I have concluded that it has something to do with PL vs. CSQ.