Motorola systems saber encryption

clinton_radloff · Post by **clinton_radloff** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:52 pm

Hi, i purchased two of those systems saber UHF SECURENET radios. i want privacy when i chat. i dont want others knowing what im doing.
how do i set this up.
please help me out
Clinton

wb4bsd · Post by **wb4bsd** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:25 am

enusre that the secure feature is enabled in the codeplug..

get a kvl with the proper hybrid installed for your scenario..

load the encryption key..

talk..

Note: The use of encrypted transmissions on amateur radio freqs is prohibited. (not saying i have never done it, just letting you know.)[/i]

jnglmassiv · Post by **jnglmassiv** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:07 pm

If you're using a repeater, it will need to be compatible, too.

clinton_radloff · Post by **clinton_radloff** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:10 pm

what about on the cb frequencies. can i use it there.

Post by **batdude** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:55 pm

before anyone flames him... notice his location. "CB" is UHF in Australia.

i don't know whether it's legal or not to operate secure there tho.

doug

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:33 pm

That's a good question, i don't know if they would legally be allowed to do that on the UHF CB over there. You would have to read through the regulations on it and find out what transmission types are allowed.

Osprey · Post by **Osprey** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:17 am

ACREM, a user's group, seems to indicate that encryption is permissible on the CBRS "General" channels (9-10, 12-21, 24-30, 39),

http://www.acrem.org.au/Files/CB_Submis ... _final.pdf (Page 12)

Although the use of ‘Speech Encryption’ or “Scramblers” is prohibited under the Class Licence to
operate on call channels, emergency channels or repeaters...

However, I'd check with your local FCC entity first.

BOFH · Post by **BOFH** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:09 pm

Just FYI, here in Australia, we have two CB bands, one is AM with 40 channels in the 27MHz band, the other is UHF CB with 40 channels in the 477MHz range.

UHF channels 1-8 are repeater channels with 31-38 as their inputs. Ch 5 is the emergency channel, and there are a couple of channels where date/telemetry is permitted. Not sure how legal encryption is, but I guess we could just assume the original poster has looked into these things and help him with the tech side of things.

Looks like he has got some good advice already.

On to Motorola encryption, aren't some types of analogue encryption perfectly capable of passing through normal analogue repeaters?

boylo · Post by **boylo** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:11 pm

If they are old Police radios which they most likely are if brought in Oz they are likely to be DVP capable.
Some organisations removed the encryption modules before the radios were disposed of.
If they have DVP modules in them they will not work through a standard analogue UHF CB repeater with encryption enabled.
They should be fine in simplex. You will need to load an encryption key into them with a KVL.
Correct alignment of these radios was critical for recovered audio to be understandable and range was greatly reduced in DVP.

All said unless you have access to a KVL you are probably better off forgetting it or buy some radios with built in speech inversion which will give you some privacy from the local Morons on the "Children's Band".