110 WATT RADIO Laws in Australia

fly_on_the_wall · Post by **fly_on_the_wall** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:42 pm

Hi there, i recently tried to purchase a 110 Watt XTL5000 from an australian radio dealer and i was told that although it can be bought, he advised against it due to the huge amounts of paperwork involved with the ACMA. Just wondering if anyone here can shed some light on the subject. Maybe someone knows more on it, i got the impression the dealer did not want to go to the effort of doing all the paperwork.

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:14 pm

It's not type approved, so you can't use it at all on the land mobile radio service.

You'd possibly be able to use it under a Scientific Assigned license, with very heavy restrictions, and tons of paperwork. It's probably not worth it.

Contact the ACMA in Canberra to find out exactly what's involved.

fly_on_the_wall · Post by **fly_on_the_wall** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:51 am

Thankyou for the info, i will contact ACMA tomorrow morning and find out all the in's and out's.

HLA · Post by **HLA** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:45 pm

what do you need that much power for? just use a high gain antennae on a 45 watter and get close to the same thing. and alot cheaper.

Will · Post by **Will** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:22 pm

RADIOCOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1992
- SECT 301
Supply of radiocommunications devices to unlicensed
persons

(1)
Subject to subsection (2), a person (the supplier) who carries on the business of supplying radiocommunications devices to persons intending to operate them must not supply another person with an eligible radiocommunications device in the course of carrying on that business unless:

(a) the other person presents to the supplier a licence, or a duplicate of the licence, that authorises the other person to operate the device; and
(b) the supplier causes such particulars relating to supply of the device as are specified in the regulations to be recorded in a document kept for the purposes of this Act.

wa2zdy · Post by **wa2zdy** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:26 pm

There should be such rules here too. Would help keep some folks out of trouble.

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:37 pm

HLA wrote:what do you need that much power for? just use a high gain antennae on a 45 watter and get close to the same thing. and alot cheaper.

25W is maximum legal power here. Most of this country is dead flat, and that's generally plenty to hit the horizon anyway.

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:56 pm

I rember doing a contract in Victoria, Installing about 150 UHF Micor base stations. I think these were 75 watts but the mobiles were syntor and syntrx which were 25 watt
(I'm still trying to work out your syntrx avatar, it doesn't look familiar but maybe the ones I used were SP's. They did MDC600 and a load of other things and it was a government contact)

MattSR · Post by **MattSR** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:14 pm

mr.syntrx wrote:
HLA wrote:what do you need that much power for? just use a high gain antennae on a 45 watter and get close to the same thing. and alot cheaper.
25W is maximum legal power here. Most of this country is dead flat, and that's generally plenty to hit the horizon anyway.

Well, for LMR class license it is anyway - if you are a HAMsexy you get 140 watts on VHF/UHF

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:16 pm

Bruce1807 wrote:I rember doing a contract in Victoria, Installing about 150 UHF Micor base stations. I think these were 75 watts but the mobiles were syntor and syntrx which were 25 watt
(I'm still trying to work out your syntrx avatar, it doesn't look familiar but maybe the ones I used were SP's. They did MDC600 and a load of other things and it was a government contact)

I should have clarified, 25W is the limit for mobile radios. Most repeaters sold these days are 50W machines.

That picture is part of the Syntrx HHCH, which looks almost the same as a Syntor/Spectra HHCH. MDC isn't usually seen on Syntrxes - did yours have the rarer Spectra-style dash mount head, by any chance?

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:22 am

I'm trying to remember the syntrx.
We had a fixed id in the radio and an emergency button.
We could be paged, radio checked and send an emergency with MDC600
I believe we had the HHCH but it was probably an SP.
The Syntors were an SP control head and the MDC units were similar to what New York city buses used. A seperate box with a fixed MDC code and a variable MDC code.

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:35 am

Definitely SP. The Syntrx doesn't normally do MDC, and as such the standard model doesn't have an emergency button etc.

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:02 pm

If my memory serves me correct the Syntors were in trains and the Syntrx units were in vehicles.