What radios do ATIS?

Renamon · Post by **Renamon** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:54 pm

What radios can do ATIS besides the Visar?

MTS2000des · Post by **MTS2000des** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:20 pm

HT1000

NSPD · Post by **NSPD** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:12 pm

Ok what is ATIS?

Post by Pj » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:36 am

Only ATIS that I have heard of is aircraft related:

http://www.faa.gov/ats/atct/sba/ATIS.htm

bellersley · Post by **bellersley** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:52 am

I think he means the ANI signalling format ATIS. IIRC, it's the format that FDNY uses on their radios. It sounds very much like MDC.

SFD_Radio · Post by **SFD_Radio** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:47 am

The FDNY currently uses ASTRO signaling on analog fireground channels. The voice transmissions on fireground channels are analog, when the user dekeys the PTT the radio remodulates to P25 and sends the unit ID. One benefit is that the ID can be a 7-digit number, unlike MDC1200's 4-digit hex. This feature was specially developed for the FDNY in their XTS3500 radios. It is not a standard feature of the 3500. However, this feature is now available in all ASTRO-25 subscribers with firmware v6 or newer under the name of "Tactical Pubic Safety."

Prior to that, when they used Sabers, the signaling was MDC1200.

I am not sure what ATIS is or what it stands for, though, I'd like to know.

Post by **xmo** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:11 am

ATIS = Automatic Transmitter Identification System

Generic name for PTTID. The term is sometimes used in regional NPSPAC Plans, as in ATIS is permissible on 800 MHz interoperability channels.

In other words MDC PTTID would be one form of ATIS as would GE Star or Kenwood's format, etc.

Tom in D.C. · Post by **Tom in D.C.** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:53 am

The Vertex FT60R will do this, in MCW, if you program it that
way. Unfortunately it's a global feature, so I never use it since
I don't want my callsign going out on a MURS channel! Matter
of fact I don't want my callsign going out at all unless I decide
to actually say it.

Renamon · Post by **Renamon** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:32 pm

Cool, Thanks. Any HT1000 or only newer Rev. D models?

Like stated, ATIS sounds almost identical to MDC. FDNY used it pre-9/11 on a lot of their radios.

FireCpt809 · Post by **FireCpt809** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:01 pm

ATIS is the same as MDC its just another name for it

440roadrunner · Post by **440roadrunner** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:27 pm

The Vertex FT60R will do this, in MCW

Not the same thing, at all. What they are talking about here is a digitally encoded string, not a CW ID

Tom in D.C. · Post by **Tom in D.C.** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:27 pm

ATIS is an acronym for ANY system
that automatically identifies a transmitter, no matter
how you slice it or what you call it.

bellersley · Post by **bellersley** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:06 pm

Actually, in Motorola terms, ATIS is *not* "any" PTT ANI. They have a specific format called ATIS in some of their radios. It is NOT MDC1200, although it's very similar.

440roadrunner · Post by **440roadrunner** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:23 pm

Perhaps we need to ask the original poster just what it is that HE means

Tom you don't have to get snotty. It's quite possible that once upon a time, I owned more MCW capable WWII surplus stuff than you've seen lately. an ARC-2 or TCS comes to mind.

My idea of any TRUE ATIS is one that IS automatic. The responders that are speaking in terms of ANI type systems are what I think of. Expecting a dispatcher to sit at a console and listen for CW, uh, excuse me, MCW id's doesn't seem very automatic to me. Some sort of encoded string that gets read out on a display of some sort, be it a CRT console or separate decoder display, is my idea of a true ATIS.

Post by Pj » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:28 am

Now the question is...are we talking about unit ID signalling (all encompassing) for the new fireground accountibility option?

mikegilbert · Post by **mikegilbert** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:48 pm

Tom is correct. ATIS is a stand-alone signaling format in the Visar/HT1000. It's similar to MDC1200, but it IS a DIFFERENT format.

I'll post an audio/video sample tonight (sunday)

-Mike

d119 · Post by **d119** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:30 pm

I believe that ATIS was developed for Transit systems... Thats the only place I've ever heard it used.

Renamon · Post by **Renamon** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:27 pm

I mean ATIS as in the Motorola format named "ATIS" (what FDNY used to use). Not A.T.I.S. as in "Automatic Transmitter Identification System".

KitN1MCC · Post by **KitN1MCC** » Fri May 11, 2007 7:09 pm

at the rail road here for out boat operation we picked up some Standard horizon hx-370 they are marine and LMR you can program 40 LMR channels and there is an option for ATIS i am going to turn it on see how it sounds. as a side note these radios are build like a brick all metal case and the best part was called them up and i said what do i need to do to get the Software he said whats you E-mail and it was in my e-mail box when i got home

KitN1MCC · Post by **KitN1MCC** » Sun May 13, 2007 7:16 am

got it programmed it is set to post ptt and it has a very unusual sound and it takes like 10 numbers all spaces mist be filled

Rayjk110 · Post by **Rayjk110** » Sun May 13, 2007 7:36 am

If you even want to hear it you'll have to set a pre-time if its set for PRE-ID in the sig op menu. At least that was the issue with my HT1k/Visar when I dicked around with that feature becasue the burst itself is so short.

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