Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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Hi, I have been playing with a p110 that came with a lot of BK radios that I bought at a auction. I sold the Bendix Kings and I am now playing with the Motorola's that came with the lot I bought. I was wondering does the P110 have scanning capability? and how do you make it scan if it does. Thanks for all information.
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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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Yes the radio can scan. You will need to take one channel and set it up as a scan.

In order to do this you will need the Motorola software (RSS) for the P110. You will
also need a RIB (radio interface box), the cable to go from the RIB to the P110 and a cable
to go from the RIB to your computer serial port.

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rhamiel wrote:Hi, I have been playing with a p110 that came with a lot of BK radios that I bought at a auction. I sold the Bendix Kings and I am now playing with the Motorola's that came with the lot I bought. I was wondering does the P110 have scanning capability? and how do you make it scan if it does. Thanks for all information.
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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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the p110 is a gp300 in a different housing so you can easily convert that p110 into a gp300 and take it up to 16 channels too.
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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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Thanks for the information on making this radio scan. I will need to look into it more now that I know it will scan.
Thanks again!!

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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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As with all model types such as the P110, GP300/350 et al...
You need to remember that this model may be 16 channels, but in order to gain scanning, you lose one channel as the 'SCAN' function takes up one channel assignment(#16), and you have to activate the scan function in the RSS.

You will end up with a scanning 15 channel radio when all is said and done.

And yes, the P110 can easily be swapped into a GP300 case...it's the same radio frame after all!

And the GP300 case will allow access to the 'hidden' middle button you don't get with the P110 series, not to mention those longer batteries(which you can easily make work on the shorter GP300 cases by cutting notches into the battery case so the latch will engage and retain the battery(simple Dremel job).
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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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To expand on Jim's point here, in the RSS after you read the codeplug (F3 then F2) F10 out of the get/save menu then hit F4, this will put you into the change/view menu. Hit F5, then go to the mode you want the scan on, I use the last channel on mine. Then you need to change the type from conventional to scan, this will open the F6 option of the scan list, here you set up what channels are scanned and the priority of the channel. when you are done F10 to the main and then write it to the radio, and now you have your scan capabilities.

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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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It's been a while since I toyed with the P110, GP300's but I believe that only radios capable of signalling will scan. ie: GP300 in 16, 8, or that odd 8+2 variety. (Unless it's a pre -'94 radio that you've already hacked into a 16 ch. GP300). Unless something was added to the later RSS versions than I had access to the GP300 2 channel or P110 in any flavor didn't scan.
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Not sure where your coming from, but the fire dept that I use to belong to had a pile
of the p110 portables. They all had scan in them that we set up on channel 16. I was
able to program them to scan all or some of the other 15 channels the radio had.

Jim


RadioSouth wrote:It's been a while since I toyed with the P110, GP300's but I believe that only radios capable of signalling will scan. ie: GP300 in 16, 8, or that odd 8+2 variety. (Unless it's a pre -'94 radio that you've already hacked into a 16 ch. GP300). Unless something was added to the later RSS versions than I had access to the GP300 2 channel or P110 in any flavor didn't scan.
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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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Hello all:
I think Radio south is refering to the P110 in the 2ch version which normaly does not do scan.
The P110/GP300 portables in the 2ch version that were manufactured before 1994 ( such as a 1993 or older) could be hex edited to be a 16ch with scan and phone ect .
Motorola caught on to the hacking of these radios and in 1994 removed the address lines in the code plug to eliminate further hacking of the 2ch portables to 16ch ect.
So this now meant that a 1994 or newer radio could not be converted to 16ch properly.
Yes you could still hack the 1994 and newer portables and the program would take the programming and look like it was actualy a 16ch model but you could not access the 3 through 16 ch added because the address lines needed in the code plug were now eliminated.
A hacked 2ch 1994 or newer would be the same freq txd/rxd as on ch1 and all odd ch numbers would be the same as 1 when tried and all even ch numbers would be the same as ch 2.
Often refered to as the 1212121212121212 radio = Would not convert.
Or the 12345678910111213141516 = the radio that did convert or 1211111111111111 was another way mentioned as a radio that would convert.
You could still convert any 4ch/6ch/8ch/8+2 regardless of the manufactuered date.
Only the 2ch models were affected by the 1994 date ect.
Just in case someones wondering on whether you could gain scan / phone on a p110/gp300 by hex editing the code plug of a 1994 or newer date 2ch portable = The answer i keep hearing from many is NO WAY !
Aparently not only the access to the other added chanels was the only thing eliminated from the code plugs address lines.
I was hoping i could at least edit the code plug to gain phone and stay with the 2 ch capability since the code plug was too new and wouldnt allow 16ch conversion.
But all attempts failed with 1994 or newer 2ch models.
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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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To add a little more to this subject, I just converted a P110 4 ch to 16 ch and could not get it to scan, it wasn't even an option in RSS. I did a little bit banging a found that if you find your model number in hex (i was editing the p110.mdf) you can enable scan on these radios. If you go 3 bytes past the channel byte it should be 67 to enable scan so it should look like this for a 16 ch 5 watt radio... 10 05 00 67, and don't forget about the checksum.. refer to the mod spef page or hoffis pages for details on this. Just thought i'd share, i hadn't seen this discussed in here anywhere and i scratched my for a couple of hours on this one.

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Re: Is there a way to make the p110 scan??

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Glad to hear that another Ma M RSS issue has been put to bed.

Maybe someday they just might listen to the end user and service people.

Jim


jdcadc wrote:To add a little more to this subject, I just converted a P110 4 ch to 16 ch and could not get it to scan, it wasn't even an option in RSS. I did a little bit banging a found that if you find your model number in hex (i was editing the p110.mdf) you can enable scan on these radios. If you go 3 bytes past the channel byte it should be 67 to enable scan so it should look like this for a 16 ch 5 watt radio... 10 05 00 67, and don't forget about the checksum.. refer to the mod spef page or hoffis pages for details on this. Just thought i'd share, i hadn't seen this discussed in here anywhere and i scratched my for a couple of hours on this one.

Jeff
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