Securenet on Sabers...

[Renamon]

I have a couple sabers that, come to find out, have DES-XL modules in them!

I have heard that, if you have a securenet key loaded into the radio, and you remove the battery while the radio is on/at all, it will clear the key out of the memory and you have to re-key the radio. Is that true?

The sabers in question are both saber 1's, One is pretty old (only allows 4 PL codes) and the other I am not sure about.

Thanks!

[Grog]

I have heard that, if you have a securenet key loaded into the radio, and you remove the battery while the radio is on/at all, it will clear the key out of the memory and you have to re-key the radio. Is that true?

That's correct....

[N4KVE]

You are correct. You must have the radio off when you change the battery. Even then you only have a half minute to make the change or the key will be lost. GARY N4KVE

[MotoFAN]

What's power source provides voltage for encryption module when battery removed? Built in radio (or in module) ionistor?

[DJP126]

What's power source provides voltage for encryption module when battery removed? Built in radio (or in module) ionistor?

The radio has a circuit that "stores voltage" for a short time for the secure communications module. During testing at the depot, the secure code had to be retained for more than 20 seconds and not longer than 35 seconds (to allow time for a battery swap). Also if the radio was turned on (without a battery) the code had to be wiped out. This was a government requirement.

[MotoFAN]

The radio has a circuit that "stores voltage"

Based on condenser or ionistor?

for a short time for the secure communications module. During testing at the depot, the secure code had to be retained for more than 20 seconds and not longer than 35 seconds (to allow time for a battery swap). Also if the radio was turned on (without a battery) the code had to be wiped out. This was a government requirement.

I tried and my 20 years old Securnet Saber holds key for a 60 seconds. I don't tried more, but can.

[Hartley]

OK, MotoFAN, what, exactly is an "ionister"? I Googled it, and found nothing electronic at all.

[Hartley]

Never mind - now that I spelled it correctly, I find it's a fancy sort of capacitor..

[MotoFAN]

Never mind - now that I spelled it correctly, I find it's a fancy sort of capacitor..

Yes. They also known as super-condenser and ultra-condenser.