Systems Saber VHF - a few questions about the bandsplits

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Systems Saber VHF - a few questions about the bandsplits

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MotoFAN wrote:Can anybody post here list of all available bandsplits for Astro Saber?

I saw list here http://www.batlabs.com/astrosab.html

1. VHF1 136-162
2. VHF2 146-174
3. VHF3 136-174
4. VHF4 136-174
My question is almost identical, but about the non astro version instead id est Systems Saber. The Saber model brakdown page states that the sub-bandsplits cannot be determined from the model number. Is this so also with Systems Saber or does it differ somehow?

There isn't a D bandsplit capable handheld of transmitting in the 50-52 MHz six meter ham radio band, other than for the Astro Portables is there?
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Re: Systems Saber VHF - a few questions about the bandsplits

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136-150 Low Split

146-162 Mid Split

157-174 High Split

146-147 Wideband

Those are the VHF Splits that I know of..

403-433 Low Split

440-470 Mid Split

458-490 High Split

Those are the widely seen UHF Saber Splits.

I don't think there are any low band Sabers or Astro radios. I know that some 70mhz midband MX-series radios are out there, but none that cover 6-meters. If I could get a Saber on 46mhz I would jump on that!
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Re: Systems Saber VHF - a few questions about the bandsplits

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oh2lna wrote:
My question is almost identical, but about the non astro version instead id est Systems Saber. The Saber model brakdown page states that the sub-bandsplits cannot be determined from the model number. Is this so also with Systems Saber or does it differ somehow?

Right, you have to look at the modules to be completely sure of what you have. There is lots of useful info here.
http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorol ... index.html


One snip with the true bandsplits.

VHF ranges:

* 136-150.8 MHz - Government/military surplus and usually referred to as the government split. Programs up on amateur, MARS or CAP channels with no problems.
* 146-162 MHz - This will cover the entire USA 144-148 MHz amateur band with modifications to the RSS.
* 146-174 MHz - Wideband split.
* 148-174 MHz - This is a wideband split only found in low power H33 series Sabers.
* 157-174 MHz - This is the most useless VHF split to an amateur, but they make good trading radios or parts radios. Also, these can be changed to a more desirable band split by swapping the modules. For example if you had a Saber III on this split and a Saber I on 136‑150 Mhz you could swap the modules around and end up with a 136‑150 Mhz Saber III and a 157‑174 MHz Saber I you could sell to someone on a commercial channel (perhaps on eBay).

UHF ranges:

* 403-433 MHz - Government / military surplus and usually referred to as the government split. These are useless for USA ham use as they will not cover the 440-450 MHz (repeater) segment of the amateur band. The highest I got one to program and operate was 436 MHz. Beyond that the VCO would unlock and there is no easy way to fix it. (Note from WA6ILQ: Sabers have been seen as low as 395 MHz but I have no technical info on them.)
* 440-470 MHz - The absolute perfect USA amateur split radio!
* 458-490 MHz - This split will not extend down to the ham band, making it a trading radio or a parts radio.
* 482-512 MHz - Again, not useful to an amateur... Another trading radio or a parts radio.



The closest saber to a 6 meter version is the 66-84 or 74-88 MHz versions.
WA6ILQ wrote: There is a consistent and repeating story that someone has modified a Saber to the 6 meter amateur band, specifically the USA national calling frequency of 52.525 MHz, and someone else has moved one to 220 MHz. Every time I try to follow up on the story or track it down it's "I heard that someone...", but nobody knows who that "someone" is. If anybody actually has moved a Saber to 52 MHz or to 220 MHz then Repeater-builder.com would be happy to host a conversion article.
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