saber III secure capable option

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saber III secure capable option

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i have a saberIII UHF version as far as i know its not secure capable i just want to program that option in with the RSS so i can get that beep before each transmission i just don't know which menu in the RSS to go to nor the option to change,does anyone know the menu and option to change,thanx for your time :)
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If its a non-secure Saber you have to build a codeplug as a secure radio to see the option in the RSS
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From Batlabs home http://www.batlabs.com/saber.html

Converting a Secure-Capable Saber into a Secure Saber

First, your radio must be secure capable to begin with. A secure capable radio is about 3/4" longer than a regular Saber. When you open it up, it should have a dummy (bypass) module installed in place of a secure module.

In order to convert your Saber into a secure model, you need to replace the bypass-module with the a real encryption module, disable Option H432 (VP capable only), and enable either Option H245, H244, H400 or H401.

Sometimes you may also have to install a Secure/Clear switch.

Then you must load an key into the module by using an KVL
Messages can't be intercepted if they aren't sent, can they?
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Re: saber III secure capable option

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You can also just program in an MDC databurst under options H958 (600 baud) or H959 (1200 baud)
which will transmit a four-number digital data burst every time you transmit. Be advised,
however, that if you're the only person on the system/frequency doing this the other users
will soon appear at your door with idea of killing you foremost on their minds.
The MDC databurst can be a very annoying thing to hear, more so if you're using it just for the hell of it.

If you can, try to get hold of Motorola's 68-81062C95-F manual for Saber programming. This
covers the version 7 Saber RSS but is also completely useful for the more common version
6 RSS which more people seem to have and use than version 7.
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Re: saber III secure capable option

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I have done this before but it's been a while since.

From memory you will need to change your radios model number From an H44SAK7139 to a H44QXK7139 and even though it's not truly a secure radio you should then get the option to set it up to transmit clear alert tones.

As I remember I read the radio and then opened the code plug in a HEX editor program and changed the model number as required.

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Re: saber III secure capable option

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It can be changed in the RSS as easy as building a new codeplug as a secure radio..
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That's good, I don't work with sabers anymore so I couldn't remember if the RSS used the radios serial number or not.
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and be sure to include when you program , to tone when in the clear . you may also need to program to omit secure switch ..
if not , you may get a key tone failure and no transmit . also when you make a new code plug and you go to program the radio .. be sure to use the tuning values that are in the radio.
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