Motorola Saber II programming

[nated978]

I have a Motorola Saber II H43QXJ7139CN 136-174Mhz non secure radio I am having a difficult time trying to program this radio. What I am trying to do is get my my local NOAA weather channel on the radio and thats it but when I program the radio it only admits a loud tone after it writes. I do have everything for programming straight dos computer rib box etc... the RSS software i am using is R06.00.00 please help

[Tom in D.C.]

A QXJ is a secure radio. You must have either a bypass module or a secure module in it to make it work. Much easier to do with a bypass module if you have a choice. Without one or the other you're dead in the water.

[nated978]

ok can you explain to me a little more on the bypass module please thanks

[nated978]

ok how do i do that or is their a link that shows me how to do that

[FireCpt809]

It also could be a low split radio 136-150.8 mhz when you program a 162.xx into it it takes the VCO out of lock. That emits a tone too

[Tom in D.C.]

Start here if you haven't already done so:

http://batlabs.com/saber.html

1. First, make certain the small flipper switch on top of the radio is turned to the bottom right.
2. If still no go, remove the radio's case by loosening the two spanner-head screws on the battery
plate. Keeping your fingers OFF the PTT switch, pull the radio out of the case using the antenna.
This may sound odd to you but it's right out of the service manual. Now you're looking at the front
of the chassis and the display, microphone and speaker. The secure module, or bypass module goes
underneath there at the bottom of the radio. See if you can see anything in the space by looking
around the edges. You can remove the thing (shield) with the display by prying it loose at the bottom
and lifting it slightly, thus giving you a better look at the space for the module. If the space is empty
you need a module...but...look carefully. It's possible that some may have done the same thing the bypass
module does by installing a single-wire jumper. So, no jumper, no module of either type and you will have
to provide one. If there IS a module or jumper installed and the radio still will not accept the program you
should start by messing with the secure setting in the setup menu, such as VP-enable. I'm pretty sure,
though, that you'll find that the secure module space is empty.

[nated978]

ok let me try that out

[nated978]

there is no bypass in the radio

[Tom in D.C.]

there is no bypass in the radio

A common occurrence. You need to get a bypass module or else the jumper/hole connection diagram
so you can install a wire jumper. A search here on the Board will probably produce this data but it may
take you a while to dig through the old posts. Try searching "Bypass module" to start. Someone will
possibly jump in to give you the data; I don't have it at hand.

[nated978]

I will pics up and maybe a video of this so you can see

[SlimBob]

there is no bypass in the radio

You may be able to put a piece of solid #24, #26, or #28 in the holes where the bypass module went. Look on the webpage before you attempt anything. I'm not responsible if you foul your radio up.

http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorol ... index.html <- more words to read.

[nated978]

the radio looks completely different than the picture on repeater builder

[Tom in D.C.]

The only thing that really matters is what YOUR radio looks like. Post a photo or photos and let those of us who know something about Sabers do some reviewing and thinking about your situation, okay? You can also send photos directly to any of us using the email function available to you on this Board.

[nated978]

[nated978]

I DID IT WOOOHOOOO!!!!!! THANKS GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HELP

[nated978]

ok now i can't tx i get a beeping tone when i push in the PTT button

[Tom in D.C.]

It looks as if the secure/nonsecure switch is missing from the top of your radio. The
problem you're now having is typical of a secure radio that has not been set up
correctly in the software, or where the s/ns switch is in the s position but there is
no s module in the radio. The action/installation of the missing switch is such that
it must be in one position or the other, but if the guts of the switch and the contacts
are missing the circuit is in neither position, hence the continuous beep...or... you
have something set wrong in the setup menu. If you can find a donor radio it's not
a huge deal to install the switch, or to change cases if that's an easier alternative.
Also, go to the RSS setup menu for secure operations and review the settings, the
radio might just work without the switch if you get the secure settings right; at least
it's worth a try.

[N7QQU-Ken]

Looks like a non-secure radio. Take some pix of the front of the main board.

[Tom in D.C.]

The OP said it's a QXK but he also said it's a non-secure radio, and from the photos you can't
really tell whether it's a short or long chassis. And it also looks as if the secure switch may have been
removed from the top of the radio. So, the mystery continues...

[nated978]

I have everything set and is fully operational also the radio is a short not a long

[nated978]

Here are some new photos for you guys to look at. I found the front of this radio odd to me it looks like a Saber 3 in a 2 housing.

[FireCpt809]

Whet you have there is a NON secure Saber II, The board is for a Saber III. Alot of saber II were just model II's crippled III bu programming them as II and putting them in a II case. The radio has the flex for the secure switch but all sabers do. Its not necessary with this radio. . Her is the fix... Go into the RSS and build a new codeplug from scratch that matches the radio.

[motorola_otaku]

Am I mistaken, or is the lid missing off of this gentleman's synthesizer module?

[nated978]

nope nothing is missing the lid was taken off