HT1000 Programming Laptop?

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HT1000 Programming Laptop?

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Would a Pentuim one 233MHZ laptop be slow enough to program an HT1000?
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That would work fine....the HT1000 RSS isn't that picky about programming speed.
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Thank you for the reply!
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What kind of RSS is picky about computer speed?
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CPD534 wrote:What kind of RSS is picky about computer speed?
My rule of thumb is anything pre-Pentium, but I know there has been some debate on this.
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CPD534 wrote:What kind of RSS is picky about computer speed?
Most, if not all, of the older DOS based ones.

Some windows stuff is picky. The 1225 CPS won't install directly on anything newer than an XP machine.

Then there's the old serial vs. USB cable issue. Serial cables, especially the RIBless ones, seem to just plain work reliably on PC's that have built in serial ports. I seen varying reports about USB cables or USB to serial adapters. I have two different USB to serial adapters. One works reliably, but the other won't work at all. I've spend hours loading different PL-2303 chipset drivers with no luck. I also have several different USB direct to radio cables and am having the same issue with the newest one that just arrived.

Sorry to digress a bit, but it all seems to be different sides of the same general issue.
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SteveC0625 wrote:
CPD534 wrote:What kind of RSS is picky about computer speed?
Most, if not all, of the older DOS based ones.

Some windows stuff is picky. The 1225 CPS won't install directly on anything newer than an XP machine.

Then there's the old serial vs. USB cable issue. Serial cables, especially the RIBless ones, seem to just plain work reliably on PC's that have built in serial ports. I seen varying reports about USB cables or USB to serial adapters. I have two different USB to serial adapters. One works reliably, but the other won't work at all. I've spend hours loading different PL-2303 chipset drivers with no luck. I also have several different USB direct to radio cables and am having the same issue with the newest one that just arrived.

Sorry to digress a bit, but it all seems to be different sides of the same general issue.
I've ran the M1225 CPS on Windows 7 without a problem but you need to make some changes to make it work. I've had very good luck with PL-2303 USB Converters...but you have to have a decent USB controller...I think Dell now has one where all the work is in software so timing is a bit off...
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KE7JFF wrote: I've ran the M1225 CPS on Windows 7 without a problem but you need to make some changes to make it work. I've had very good luck with PL-2303 USB Converters...but you have to have a decent USB controller...I think Dell now has one where all the work is in software so timing is a bit off...
What are these "changes"?
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1225 and mtr2000 won't install on an x64 machine in Windows 7. They work fine in Virtual XP mode.

Older DOS RSS programs had timing and serial port issues.

This is why ISR.com came out. Other issues were the software is looking to map to an 8250 uart and not a 16550.

Some of the older X9000 software was NOT expecting caching in the CPU and won't run until you disable caching.

As usual, I default to the old Motorola document that mentions computer compatibility.
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com501 wrote:1225 and mtr2000 won't install on an x64 machine in Windows 7. They work fine in Virtual XP mode.

Older DOS RSS programs had timing and serial port issues.

This is why ISR.com came out. Other issues were the software is looking to map to an 8250 uart and not a 16550.

Some of the older X9000 software was NOT expecting caching in the CPU and won't run until you disable caching.

As usual, I default to the old Motorola document that mentions computer compatibility.
Whats nice is that you can run Maxtrac RSS and other two wire-based radio RSS in DosBOX under XP and 7. Everything else, I run either under XP or 7 in regular 32-bit mode.
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Since DOS laptops are a dime a dozen, and old DOS radios once bricked are hard to replace (for some models), I prefer to use 'tried and true' hardware.
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Believe it or not, I had to use a 286-12 on an MT-2000 just to get it to write without a persistent serial bus error. My PII/IIIs were too much for it, I guess it had an older controller. So, I programmed it nice and slow and it worked like a champ. The point is, It's a good idea to keep those old dinosaur computers around.
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i'll 2nd that, for P200's and MT1000's you still need the old 286. And as cheap as those old machines are how is it not cost effective to keep one or two around and just program the radios the way they were originally intended to by Motorola?
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The older radios more picky to the speed of the computer then the software - correct??
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..yes.
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