Maxtrac squelch slow to open

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vhacmowilmob
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Maxtrac squelch slow to open

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I just got another Maxtrac 300 UHF (449-470). I have about 10 of these in service as echolink/IRLP links around the state, and this is the first one that's given me this issue...

(It's not interfaced yet, so it shouldn't be a problem, as I take unsquelched audio from the interface connector, but...)
The squelch seems to take forever to open on receiving a signal. The receiver opens with a 225.7hz CTCSS, and takes more than 1/2second to open on TX from my HT. The other radios are nearly instant.
Programming is the same on all, except for frequency, and I can't figure out what's wrong here.

I haven't put the radio on the communications analyzer yet, but my frequency counter shows the radio is only about 600hz off frequency (I've seen worse), so the oscillator should be OK. I don't know what else to look for.

Any suggestions?
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Squelch is turned up too high.. its one of the blue pots tht you manually turn down..
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Check the VCO voltage to make sure it is well within the range for lockup. If its on the edge, lockup times can be very slow.
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Re: Maxtrac squelch slow to open

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Could be a case of the board pins too - those pins between the logic and rf brd.
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There is mod for Maxtrac and Radius mobile, squelch slow to open. I will have to look it up and post it.
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I checked the squelch, and it's set properly. I'll take the radio in to work tonight and check the VCO (and clean the pins) and see what happens.
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Re: Maxtrac squelch slow to open

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Checked out the radio this morning...
VCOs are both right where they should be, and I cleaned all connectors, including the interboard one.
Oscillator reference has been adjusted to within 20hz.
Squelch is set properly. Squelch opens at ~0.2uV, but takes its time doing it.

Maybe I just have a slow radio...
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vhacmowilmob wrote: Maybe I just have a slow radio...
You need to do a mod to get faster un-mute. Are you into removing and replacing two small parts in your Maxtrac?
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Will wrote:
vhacmowilmob wrote: Maybe I just have a slow radio...
You need to do a mod to get faster un-mute. Are you into removing and replacing two small parts in your Maxtrac?
Let me guess - a couple feedback caps on the squelch chip? Or on the mute gate? or both.
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Will wrote:
vhacmowilmob wrote: Maybe I just have a slow radio...
You need to do a mod to get faster un-mute. Are you into removing and replacing two small parts in your Maxtrac?
If they're not SMT, I can do it... (my vision isn't good enough to play with SMT parts, even with the CCTV camera)
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Re: Maxtrac squelch slow to open

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Will,
Can you post a link (or instructions) for this squelch mod? I have another (VHF) maxtrac with the same issue...
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