Programming QC-II decode in HT1000

fireradio · Post by **fireradio** » Sun Dec 23, 2001 9:39 pm

Hi,

I'm trying to program my HT1000 to decode the QCII tones for my fire station so I can use the radio like a Minitor alert monitor. I've set up a channel to use QCII as the rx "squelch." I set the call type to Individual. In the signalling section of the RSS I entered the tones for my station: Tone A = 524.8 and Tone B = 1084.0. The RSS rounded 524.8 to 524.6, and it gave me an error when I tried to enter 1084.0 -- however it let me keep the entry. The unit does not appear to be opening the squelch when the tones for my station are sent. (We use standard, tone A =1 sec tone B = 3 sec QCII). Why isn't the radio decoding the tones, and why won't it accept the two tone freqs as valid Motorola tones? I read the freqs diectly off of the reeds in my Minitor pager.

Thanks,

FireRadio

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Sun Dec 23, 2001 10:34 pm

I have a JT1000 that has a mind of its own? with ver. 03.03 RSS It does the same thing! With a bandsplit of 450-470Mhz. I can enter Ham radio freqs. in by holding down the Shift key & typing ex: 444.3000 shows $$$.3000 till you enter into the tx (next section) My point being. Can that shift key work? (or has anyone tried it?) with the QCII tones? something I will try when I go to the shop? after the holidays! any other comments out there!?

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 6:30 am

With respect to QCII tones, it is perfectly normal to have the RSS round the freq. a bit and that shouldn't present a problem with decode.

What error are you getting when you enter the second tone? It sound to me that you are using non-standard tones. The Jedi series is usually pretty good with decoding tones, even non-standard ones so I think this may be a configuration issue.

Chris

fireradio · Post by **fireradio** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 7:20 am

When I entered the second tone it said something like "Warning -- This is not a suggested tone...Continue anyway?" This is really strange that it is not working. I must have missed something in the config. It is really starting to bug me. (Also...while reading up on QCII in batlabs, I saw both of my tones in this table http://www.batlabs.com/qciitbl4.html which makes me wonder why the HT1000 would not recognize them as being standard.) Thanks for the help,

FireRadio

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 10:07 am

I get those warnings when I'm going out of band! Did it say Continue Anyway press F10??
Hope its working!

fireradio · Post by **fireradio** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 11:44 am

Yes, I think thats what it said..but this is totally different then going out of band. Anyone have any comments on how reliable MT1000s are with QCII decode?

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 12:11 pm

Is this an MT1000 or an HT1000?

Send me a copy of the codeplug, and what tones you want.

Chris

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radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 12:20 pm

Well we know we can go out of the bandsplit by holding down the Shift Key, as we enter the freqs! What I want to see is if the same thing applies to QCII tones?? On a HT or JT? I'll give it a try at work...unless someone already knows if its gonna work or not? An MT I don't know?........We rarely use the above radios anyway! Since the county issued us the new stuff!...there just laying around for backups! Ed

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 12:24 pm

I'll then assume this is an MT1000.

The MT1000 will not reliably decode outside of the normal QC tones, plectron, reach, and GE are a crapshoot.

The Jedi series are much more reliable, and the MT2000 series actually has the tone equivalents for all formats in the RSS.

The MT1000 was not made to decode non QC tones. If you don't get the Motorola 3 digit equivalent when you enter the tone, then you are using a non-standard tone.

Chris

fireradio · Post by **fireradio** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 12:54 pm

The radio in question of programming is an HT HT HT1000, but I was just asking about an MT1000.

Thanks,

FR

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 1:43 pm

Let us know how the QCII tone problem turned out? In regards to your HT....

John · Post by **John** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 3:12 pm

I don't think the HT-1000 should have any problem with non-standard tones. I have one setup using PLECTRON tones and it works fine. I get the same warning message when entering the tones but they work fine. The only difference I see from what you describe, is I am have mine setup for both TPL and QCII and Signalling OR. It sounds like you have yours set for Singalling AND. Anyway, just thought I would let you know the tones shouldn't be a problem.

John

fireradio · Post by **fireradio** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 1:57 pm

Good news! I re-programmed the entire radio from scratch. It now seems to be decoding the tones properly -- I know everything was programmed correctly the first time, so I don't know exactly what the problem was...Anyway, thanks for the help!

One more quick question: Is there a way to program a pre-defined volume level for the alert beeps? It seems very soft, and it is uneffected by the volume knob.

Thanks!!!!! Happy Holidays, FR

John · Post by **John** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 2:40 pm

As I remember, you can program a mimimum Alert Tone volume under Change:Radio Configuration:Alert Tone:Alert Vol Receive. If you set it to 00 it will use the volume control setting.

John

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:13 pm

Glad to see everything is working, the codeplug looks fine. Only thing is whether your department defeats PL before tone out.

Some systems utilize this feature so the radios don't hear the tones. If the radio is set for TPL/QCII then the radio will not decode the tones.

Otherwise, it seems as if this was some quirky thing.

Happy Holidays..Chris

raymond345 · Post by **raymond345** » Wed Dec 26, 2001 12:37 pm

Hi there the RSS controls the TX and RX volume levels. U go from 0 to max or select
direct from vol. knob.Raymond
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