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jim · Post by **jim** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 10:12 am

At one time, I saw a program that would quickly display (in Hertz) the frequency of a tone fed into the sound card's input, such as QCII tones. Does anyone have this program or know of it?

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:03 am

There is a program by SteakSandwich software called Wintone 2.0

Its a bit dated but I think it is what you are looking for.

Chris

gafd6913 · Post by **gafd6913** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:16 am

If you want to generate tones on your computer, you can use a program called NCH Swift Sound. You can generate tones on your QCII tones, save them to a wav file, then splice them together. I use this method to test my pagers.

phrawg · Post by **phrawg** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:42 am

he wants to READ tones, not gen them.

READ the post

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:16 pm

I've played with WinTone in the past, but couldn't get it to decode QCII tones. It did PL and DTMF great though. Was I missing something?

[ This Message was edited by: Bob on 2001-12-28 15:27 ]

Post by **alex** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:20 pm

On 2001-12-28 14:16, gafd6945 wrote:
If you want to generate tones on your computer, you can use a program called NCH Swift Sound. You can generate tones on your QCII tones, save them to a wav file, then splice them together. I use this method to test my pagers.

While not in the true spirit of the post, a MUCH easier way to do that is the following:

Run qbasic (from either within windows, or dos... you gotta find it first!) and use the following command:

sound([tone frequency],[duration])

Duration is in MS.

so:

sound(1039.8,150)
sound(569.1,200)

would be a "980" tone (might be off a little bit on the numbers). Run this, and it will generate the tones, setting off any pager that you happen to be testing (providing you hold the radio's mic up to the speaker the tones are coming out of...

Remember - don't test this on public service bands, or use a radio that will transmit into a dummy load as to not cause any trouble with your local public service organization... It does work, might require some minor tweeking of the above mentioned durations.

-Alex

phrawg · Post by **phrawg** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:32 pm

Am I the only one who can read here ?

didn't the original question ask how to
R E A D tones not generate them.
Something strange here. Now another answer on how to generate tone. Hmmmm.......

Post by **alex** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:42 pm

OK, look at MY FRIST LINE:

While not in the true spirit of the post, a MUCH easier way to do that is the following:

If one would READ the first line (granted i could have said while not in the true sprit of the origional post), you would see that I already acknoledged the fact that the other persons answer was not in the spirit of the question.

Not trying to start an argument, but simply defending my post.

-Alex

[ This Message was edited by: alex on 2001-12-28 15:43 ]

jim · Post by **jim** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 1:55 pm

I have the GVA signal generator. This program allows you to enter up to 3 frequenices and duration of each and plays them sequentially. This program is GREAT for generating tones because you don't need to splice them.

I need a decode program to "read" the tones.

phrawg · Post by **phrawg** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:22 pm

ok Alex I re-read and see what you were trying to say. Answer to the other post
about generating. Seems like sometimes
folks dont really read and comprehend too
these days. Me included on that one.

Search · Post by **Search** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:50 pm

I use a program called Cool Edit 96, you can take a .wav or simular file, highlight the individual tone and then use the frequency wavelength decoder and it will give you the tone's (hz). Any questions, feel free to email me.

Post by **alex** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 9:37 pm

On 2001-12-28 19:22, phrawg wrote:
ok Alex I re-read and see what you were trying to say. Answer to the other post
about generating. Seems like sometimes
folks dont really read and comprehend too
these days. Me included on that one.

Don't worry about it. Have a good night (er... morning...)

Jim - sorry about going back and forth with someone in the middle of your topic

Hopefully you find the answer your looking for.

-Alex

[ This Message was edited by: alex on 2001-12-29 00:43 ]

jim · Post by **jim** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 11:22 am

No problem! A good fight/arguement is always fun on Batboard.

Happy New Year all!

Jonathan KC8RYW · Post by **Jonathan KC8RYW** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:27 pm

I agree with Chris L.

I use CoolEdit 96 anytime I want to decode QCII tones. Not only can you "see" the tone frequency, but you can also check the amplitude of each tone.

PS: If you try hard, you can still find a download of CoolEdit 96.

Don't bother with CoolEdit Pro/2000 or whatever they want 300 bucks for. Unless you are going to record a top-40 CD, you don't need it.

CoolEdit 96 will do the job just fine.

Search · Post by **Search** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:12 pm

I was looking for a site to download Cool Edit96 and came up with this link, hopefully it will work for you guys who were interested in it. Thanks
http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/c ... t_96.shtml
ChrisL

RadioSouth · Post by **RadioSouth** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:16 pm

While we're on the subject of tone decoding
anyone know of a self contained unit that would hook up to a scanner to decode QCII tones? (Something like what OptoElectronics makes to decode PL/DPL/DTMF codes).
Thanks !

jim · Post by **jim** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:20 pm

I used Cool 96 decoder and it works well. I did, however, notice that some tones are off by 1 or 2 Hertz. This may be on my end or on the transmit end.

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:33 pm

On 2001-12-29 22:16, RadioSouth wrote:
While we're on the subject of tone decoding
anyone know of a self contained unit that would hook up to a scanner to decode QCII tones? (Something like what OptoElectronics makes to decode PL/DPL/DTMF codes).
Thanks !

Self Contained units, compare optorlectronics & check out http://www.hamtronics.com

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:38 pm

Speaking of sub-audiable pl tones. Anyone remember that Kenwood Portable model?(made about 4-5 years ago) It had a feature that displayed the (ham-repeater) pl on the display! Too bad I don't see many of them around? came in handy in vfo....

raymond345 · Post by **raymond345** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 4:58 pm

Most new Ham radios show pl tones.
Kenwood 733,Yeasu 2600 etc.

Raymond from Canada

raymond345 · Post by **raymond345** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:23 pm

Ramsay Electronics from New York
make a $150.00 reader. Works well from
a scanner. Raymond from Canada

jim · Post by **jim** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:13 pm

Now we need to come up with a Windows based program that will display/decode DTMF tones that are fed into the sound card!

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:24 pm

Think I saw one on this forum! A day or two ago?
Could be on this post Page 1 ?

[ This Message was edited by: radioEd on 2001-12-31 00:27 ]

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:57 pm

Wintone 2.02 will do just that. It will decode DTMF in real-time via soundcard input or through wav playback. It will also decode CTCSS tones.

Chris

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:30 pm

Yea! thats it Chris! (thought it was here) but I get some error messages on Win98. Made for Win95/NT!.good thing I got an old tone reader, from Bob Grove (Grove Enterprises) several years ago! When he was making more products than books!
happy new year!!!

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:50 am

That error message is easily fixed in Win 98. I still use it. Go into your audio properties, and change your playback and record device to game compatible device. That error message will go away and you will be decoding.

If you need further assistance, private message me and I'll get you up and running.

Chris

jim · Post by **jim** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 7:10 am

I just got Wintine 2.02 working on DTMF. It took a little playing around with timing, but it works great!

Thanks all!

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:07 pm

On 2001-12-31 09:50, Chris wrote:
That error message is easily fixed in Win 98. I still use it. Go into your audio properties, and change your playback and record device to game compatible device. That error message will go away and you will be decoding.

If you need further assistance, private message me and I'll get you up and running.

Chris

Copy That! thanks for the tip! happy new year!

Mike 701 · Post by **Mike 701** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 11:07 pm

In WinTone, I can't get it to decode the CTCSS tones, what am I doing wrong here. I made sure I added the tones correctly. Keyed up, won't decode. I played w/ all settings, not working. DTMF works fine though. Thanks.

radioEd · Post by **radioEd** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 11:29 pm

Look up a few posts to the Name: Chris (about 3 posts up) Send him a pvt message. I had errors in Win98 & he got me out of it! on the posts above! in audio properties Posted: 2001-12-31 09:50 look for this time stamp post! check with him! happy new year!

Mike 701 · Post by **Mike 701** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 12:03 am

Thanks for all your responses to my ?'s radioEd. I seem to have it working ok now. Happy New Year!