Saber 68-88MHz: Are there bandsplits?

oh2glg · Post by **oh2glg** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:25 pm

Dear all,

I stubled into low-VHF sabers and I have some kind of vague memory of being heard that there's two different versions.

One that covers 68-78MHz and other for 78-88MHz.

Was it like that? Or am I remembering it wrong?

ka8ypy · Post by **ka8ypy** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:33 pm

66 - 84
74 - 88

Are the two splits the maintenance manual shows

DB

Jim2121 · Post by **Jim2121** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:37 pm

http://www.batlabs.com/saber.html scroll down to Model Breakdown if you can read the model & its an H42 ect...
I recall the ones in the 66-88 band. not the other?
anyone else?

oh2glg · Post by **oh2glg** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:45 am

Jim2121 wrote:http://www.batlabs.com/saber.html scroll down to Model Breakdown if you can read the model & its an H42 ect...
I recall the ones in the 66-88 band. not the other?
anyone else?

The model in question is H42QXK7139CN, but one can not tell its actual sub-bandsplit without reading the HT with RSS.

At the moment I don't have this HT in my hands, so to say. I'm still waiting for confirmation from the seller of the band split, which is kind of important to know before buying. I really do not need another saber that I can not use because it's operating on frequency area that has no use here.

But one thought came to my mind:
If I can recall correctly, with 146-174 sabers it might be possible to have wider frequency range despite original actual sub bandsplit by changing the power level from RSS?

How would that trick work with these 66-88 sabers? Does it work with any sabers other than VHF-version?

fogster · Post by **fogster** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:18 am

But one thought came to my mind:
If I can recall correctly, with 146-174 sabers it might be possible to have wider frequency range despite original actual sub bandsplit by changing the power level from RSS?

How would that trick work with these 66-88 sabers? Does it work with any sabers other than VHF-version?

I don't believe so. (But I've never tried.)

I think the reason it works is that there was a 'real' radio made (the H33-series Saber) that was low-power and covered the 146-174 MHz split. It really doesn't have anything to do with power output, just the bandsplit of that particular radio.

Jim2121 · Post by **Jim2121** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:30 am

Jim2121 wrote:http://www.batlabs.com/saber.html scroll down to Model Breakdown if you can read the model & its an H42 ect...
I recall the ones in the 66-88 band. not the other?
anyone else?

of course, when you read it on the rss (read the radio) then your gonna see your bandsplit...asking the seller? (theres lots of people on here who can tell you what the seller said, as to what the rss screen bandsplit reads) ! don't know what the % is on the seller saying its this. Then only to find out he's on or off the bandsplit....

mike m · Post by **mike m** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:14 pm

Interesting I was just visiting a friend back east, at one of the 3 letter govt. labs, when I saw this thread and we opened up his version R06.01.00 of saber RSS, which is dated 7/24/91, that he always raves so much about to me.

This is a version 6.01 RSS that lets one program wide and out of band on VHF high band and UHF without having to use hexedit software but he never thought to check the mid/low band radios until now.

Well it let us choose either 58 to 94 MHz or 64 to 98 MHz on the mid/low band radios. We selected a H42QXK7139CN model and it let us enter frequencies down to 57 MHz, any lower and it reverted back to 57 Mhz.

I wonder if they actually operated as low as 57 MHz with this special version 6. 01 RSS ?

Neither he nor I have any mid/low band sabers to test on.

But he had a couple of high band sabers and the RSS let us select a high power 138 to 184 MHz codeplug and once programmed the radios were operating across this range without the need to use hexedit software.

These sabers weren't anything special either just H43QXK7139CN versions that were origianally set up as 136 to 150 govt radios.

We also could select a High band version that comes up as a narrowband radio at either 126 to 161 or 136 to 172 Mhzr.

He didn't have any of the older GOVT. UHF radios lying around so we couldn't play with UHF to se what they do but his S/W lets us select some wide UHF splits also.

I know I'm getting off track but this makes me wonder now if its not such a big deal to get one of the mid split sabers working on 6 meters.

Of course one would then have to used hexedit to actually get down below 57 Mhz but maybe thats not such a pain to do ?

Mike

Post by **batdude** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:18 pm

i have personally used a mid band saber II that was on....

91.5 MHz

it was difficult to use due to the 4 gigawatt FM transmitter on the same freq - but man was it fun to use in traffic

HEY YOU - IN THE WHITE CAR

WE ARE WATCHING YOU

hehehehehehehehe

doug

mike m · Post by **mike m** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:55 pm

Cool on going to 91.5 MHz,

I'm sure all of the NPR listeners loved that.

As I remember the normal mid split was either 68-84MHz or 74-88MHz,
which now makes me want to get my grubby hands on a 68 to 84 MHz Mid band radio. Maybe I could have my friend program it with some 6 meter freq's for me so that I can perform some frankenstein work on it.

Mike