MotoTRBO analog mode

[jgilkey]

I have a system that has numerous HT1250 radios. We are slowly going to move to MotoTRBO radios, but we will be running in analog mode until all of the radios are switched. Will the MotoTRBO radios be able to encode/decode QuickCall II or MDC-1200 information in analog mode? I would like to be able to display the radio id's that are already programmed into the HT-1250's on the MotoTRBO radios.

Thanks,
Joe

[wkr518]

I have a system that has numerous HT1250 radios. We are slowly going to move to MotoTRBO radios, but we will be running in analog mode until all of the radios are switched. Will the MotoTRBO radios be able to encode/decode QuickCall II or MDC-1200 information in analog mode? I would like to be able to display the radio id's that are already programmed into the HT-1250's on the MotoTRBO radios.

Thanks,
Joe

MDC1200 analog signalling in XPR portables
XPR6300/XPR6350-non display model
PTT ID-encode
Emerg -encode
Call Alert-encode/decode

XPR6500/XPR6550- display model
PTT ID-encode/decode
Emerg-encode
Call Alert-ancode/decode

Whoever is selling them to you should have provided you with brochures and spec sheets outlining all the capabilities.
Most can be found online with a google search

Have not heard of QCII on TRBO yet.And I do not remember seeing it in the software either.But then again I leave the programming to the pros.
Maybe it is on the roadmap though.I heard that TRBO will slowly be replacing
HT750/1250/1550 once thier comparable models are released.Maybe one day there will only be lowband HT Waris radios.

I am still trying to get info that was released to most M Dealers during Roadshow 07 stops.

I hope this helps in some ways.
Google that info.
Wayne

[jgilkey]

Thanks for the info Wayne. I just checked the config on the HT-1250's and they are using MDC signaling. I am assuming the mobiles (XPR4550) also support MDC signaling. Now, if Motorola would just add a remote mount head kit for the XPR4550 mobiles, I'd be all set.

Joe

[RKG]

At the moment there no support for QC II and I would be surprised if it were added in a later rev.

[wkr518]

Not only Remote Head Kit but also Dual Control Head Kit.
I talked with the TRBO team at M today about QCII.No plans for it.Almost like they consider QCII something that is going to be phased out or not priority.
I am relatively new in this business ( I used to arrange and agent for national touring music artists,what a jump!) and have to do more homework on QCII,2 tone and 5 tone diferences.
Batlab search functions begin!
Wayne

[RKG]

MT was not designed for applications where the customer intends to stay on analog; the analog capability and limited analog feature set are there primarily to ease the pain of migration from an existing analog system to a new MT digital system.

[wkr518]

Thanks for the info Wayne. I just checked the config on the HT-1250's and they are using MDC signaling. I am assuming the mobiles (XPR4550) also support MDC signaling. Now, if Motorola would just add a remote mount head kit for the XPR4550 mobiles, I'd be all set.

Joe

TRBO mobile Remote Head is going to be available early next year sometime.Motorola releases stuff in thier Q1,Q2, quarters.I was told q2 for remote head.Also in 08 middle or late ( I never trust thier roadmap dates!) a TRBO only trunking protocol,100 watt TRBo Repeater and some other goodies.
Once I can order it is when I believe the availability.Now if I could throw a community TRBO repeater up some sites here and not need dedicated one for each customer.

[RKG]

There is no technical reason why a MT repeater could not function as an FB6, so long as everyone understood the limitations. Actually, it would be like having two co-located FB6 machines. Each customer would have his own "talkgroup" and would be assigned to either the Slot A or Slot B sides of the digital TDMA mux. Instead of using PL tones for repeater access, the customer's TGID effects the same result. However, instead of using "monitor" to see if the channel were in use, the customer has to press his PTT, and if the Slot is in use, he will get a talk denied tone.

As I think about it, the MT repeater has one advantage over old-style FB6s: since all programming is in the subscriber equipment, you could add a customer simply by programming the new customer's subscriber equipment; no travel to the MT repeater site would be necessary to activate a new tone for the new customer.

[wkr518]

There is no technical reason why a MT repeater could not function as an FB6, so long as everyone understood the limitations. Actually, it would be like having two co-located FB6 machines. Each customer would have his own "talkgroup" and would be assigned to either the Slot A or Slot B sides of the digital TDMA mux. Instead of using PL tones for repeater access, the customer's TGID effects the same result. However, instead of using "monitor" to see if the channel were in use, the customer has to press his PTT, and if the Slot is in use, he will get a talk denied tone.

As I think about it, the MT repeater has one advantage over old-style FB6s: since all programming is in the subscriber equipment, you could add a customer simply by programming the new customer's subscriber equipment; no travel to the MT repeater site would be necessary to activate a new tone for the new customer.

Would sure beat hauling butt up a snowcovered mountainside during winter in freezing temperatures to turn somebodys tone on or off.

[RKG]

But I left something out: in order to de-activate a "no pay," you'd have to have access to the customer's subscriber equipment.