Quantar with hangtime, no DPL active?
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Re: Quantar with hangtime, no DPL active?
If I read you correctly, you're looking for "tail without tone." I do not believe this is available using the Quantar internal repeater controller. It can be achieved (together with a lot of other things not available on the Quantar internal controller) by employing an external controller. My recommendation is Zetron 38-M.
Re: Quantar with hangtime, no DPL active?
You don't need to hang an external contraption on the Quantar to do something this simple. Just create a wildcard action table than inhibits the transmit PL when the receiver qualifiers are not met. The Quantar is very capable all by itself if you take some time to learn wildcard and SAM programming.
Re: Quantar with hangtime, no DPL active?
Actually, I had forgotten about this approach; yes, I think it will work.
Wildcard programming is a Boolean construct based on formatted pages, contained in the RSS. You are limited to the conditions, actions and parameters offered by the software, but they are pretty extensive.
If I recall correctly, turning off programmed TX PL is an action that is primarily intended for sending data, via an external PTT, when no PL is desired with the data. I see no reason why the following wildcard table would not work:
Condition: RPTR QUAL MET (Do not use RPTR PTT, as this includes the hang time.
Action when True: TX PL ENABLE
Action when False: TX PL DISABLE
The Quantar Programming Manual is perhaps the best manual I've ever seen by Motorola, at least with regard to software. It more or less describes the wildcard programming construct.
Wildcard programming is a Boolean construct based on formatted pages, contained in the RSS. You are limited to the conditions, actions and parameters offered by the software, but they are pretty extensive.
If I recall correctly, turning off programmed TX PL is an action that is primarily intended for sending data, via an external PTT, when no PL is desired with the data. I see no reason why the following wildcard table would not work:
Condition: RPTR QUAL MET (Do not use RPTR PTT, as this includes the hang time.
Action when True: TX PL ENABLE
Action when False: TX PL DISABLE
The Quantar Programming Manual is perhaps the best manual I've ever seen by Motorola, at least with regard to software. It more or less describes the wildcard programming construct.
Re: Quantar with hangtime, no DPL active?
"...We do have a wildcard board lying around at the shop somewhere..."
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Actually, there isn't a "wildcard board" for the Quantar like there is for Micor, MSR2000, or MSF5000.
Wildcard in Quantar is a software feature but does require the station to be equipped with a wireline board. The 4 wire wireline is standard on Quantar but can be deleted. Alternatively, an 8 wire board can be ordered as an option. The wireline board has inputs and outputs that can be utilized by the wildcard programming, however, as in your case, many station issues can be accomplished using states and actions that are do not require hardware I/O.
If your station has no wireline board, you may be able to install one you have available. The 4 wire board supports basic wildcard feature set whereas the enhanced wildcard feature set requires an 8 wire bosrd.
The proposed solution to your issue can be implemented with states and commands that are available in the basic wildcard feature set.
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Actually, there isn't a "wildcard board" for the Quantar like there is for Micor, MSR2000, or MSF5000.
Wildcard in Quantar is a software feature but does require the station to be equipped with a wireline board. The 4 wire wireline is standard on Quantar but can be deleted. Alternatively, an 8 wire board can be ordered as an option. The wireline board has inputs and outputs that can be utilized by the wildcard programming, however, as in your case, many station issues can be accomplished using states and actions that are do not require hardware I/O.
If your station has no wireline board, you may be able to install one you have available. The 4 wire board supports basic wildcard feature set whereas the enhanced wildcard feature set requires an 8 wire bosrd.
The proposed solution to your issue can be implemented with states and commands that are available in the basic wildcard feature set.
Re: Quantar with hangtime, no DPL active?
It occurs to me that my simple solution may not work if you are running a wireline (dispatch) system, as the transmitter would not send PL when keyed by the WL. You would need a compound "OR" state, such as "LINE PTT."
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Re: Quantar with hangtime, no DPL active?
Don't forget that there are two versions of WildCard incorporated into the standard Quantar. First you have Basic WildCard and then there's Enhanced WildCard has more bells & whistles.
On a standard 4-Wire Line module you'll only have 4 I/O's and on the 8-Wire Line module it has 8 I/O's to use on 50-Pin System Connector. Personally I would Enable the Enhanced WildCard in the station's F2 Service Field and start programming. If you need more than 4 I/O's then you'll need the 8 Wire Line Board.
Dan
On a standard 4-Wire Line module you'll only have 4 I/O's and on the 8-Wire Line module it has 8 I/O's to use on 50-Pin System Connector. Personally I would Enable the Enhanced WildCard in the station's F2 Service Field and start programming. If you need more than 4 I/O's then you'll need the 8 Wire Line Board.
Dan