XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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GizmoSwizz
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XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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Have a Motorola XTS 2500 III. The display has been replaced and since that moment, it shows nothing more, but lit the backlight! Programming it was the last Astro 25 Portable CPS Version 8. Is it possible that a new display driver is required? If so, this is only the program by a newer version of CPS?

Sorry for my bad English ... i'm coming from Switzerland ... and here can nobody help me with this problems. :(
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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There is no new display driver, like what happened to the XTS3000's 2 versions of it's display.

Sounds like there is a problem with the radio itself - not the display.

carefully inspect the connector where the display plugs in for bent/disformed pin.

You can power the radio with the front cover off, gently press the display
connector while powered up and see if it comes to life. There may be
a cold solder joint on the radio's side of the connector. Seen this problem
in the waris radios a few times before.

Good luck
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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Hightower wrote:There is no new display driver, like what happened to the XTS3000's 2 versions of it's display.

Sounds like there is a problem with the radio itself - not the display.

carefully inspect the connector where the display plugs in for bent/disformed pin.

You can power the radio with the front cover off, gently press the display
connector while powered up and see if it comes to life. There may be
a cold solder joint on the radio's side of the connector. Seen this problem
in the waris radios a few times before.

Good luck
Thanks for the tip. I tried but without success. The backlight works from the display. Where can I still here after an error? Or is there a way of testing?
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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GizmoSwizz wrote:
Hightower wrote:There is no new display driver, like what happened to the XTS3000's 2 versions of it's display.

Sounds like there is a problem with the radio itself - not the display.

carefully inspect the connector where the display plugs in for bent/disformed pin.

You can power the radio with the front cover off, gently press the display
connector while powered up and see if it comes to life. There may be
a cold solder joint on the radio's side of the connector. Seen this problem
in the waris radios a few times before.

Good luck
Thanks for the tip. I tried but without success. The backlight works from the display. Where can I still here after an error? Or is there a way of testing?
I just repaired a unit (XTS2500) last week with the same symptoms. The problem was the with the flex connector. It had several bad solder connection, and I had to re solder the connector. It was very hard to see, so inspect that very carefully.

Jim
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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n7maq wrote:
GizmoSwizz wrote:
Hightower wrote:There is no new display driver, like what happened to the XTS3000's 2 versions of it's display.

Sounds like there is a problem with the radio itself - not the display.

carefully inspect the connector where the display plugs in for bent/disformed pin.

You can power the radio with the front cover off, gently press the display
connector while powered up and see if it comes to life. There may be
a cold solder joint on the radio's side of the connector. Seen this problem
in the waris radios a few times before.

Good luck
Thanks for the tip. I tried but without success. The backlight works from the display. Where can I still here after an error? Or is there a way of testing?
I just repaired a unit (XTS2500) last week with the same symptoms. The problem was the with the flex connector. It had several bad solder connection, and I had to re solder the connector. It was very hard to see, so inspect that very carefully.

Jim
thanks for reply ... i will check it again.
can u tell me the part nr ? and how much that is ?
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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GizmoSwizz wrote:
n7maq wrote:
I just repaired a unit (XTS2500) last week with the same symptoms. The problem was the with the flex connector. It had several bad solder connections, and I had to re solder the connector. It was very hard to see, so inspect that very carefully.

Jim
thanks for reply ... i will check it again.
can u tell me the part nr ? and how much that is ?
No parts to purchase, I just had to re-solder it.

Jim
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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n7maq wrote:
GizmoSwizz wrote:
n7maq wrote:
I just repaired a unit (XTS2500) last week with the same symptoms. The problem was the with the flex connector. It had several bad solder connections, and I had to re solder the connector. It was very hard to see, so inspect that very carefully.

Jim
thanks for reply ... i will check it again.
can u tell me the part nr ? and how much that is ?
No parts to purchase, I just had to re-solder it.

Jim
this part on the first 2 pictures or another part on the other pictures ?

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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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Picture number 4, it was the bigger connector. The bad contacts were closer to the outside edge of the radio also.

Jim
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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n7maq wrote:Picture number 4, it was the bigger connector. The bad contacts were closer to the outside edge of the radio also.

Jim
ok the flexband with the nr 3601 MFS ? i has re solded this flexband but nothing is changing ... only backlight is workz.
the pins are ok what i can see on the 2 boards. other ideas ? :(
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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GizmoSwizz wrote:
n7maq wrote:Picture number 4, it was the bigger connector. The bad contacts were closer to the outside edge of the radio also.

Jim
ok the flexband with the nr 3601 MFS ? i has re solded this flexband but nothing is changing ... only backlight is workz.
the pins are ok what i can see on the 2 boards. other ideas ? :(
Was the old display working before you changed it? I assume not, but I still need to ask. I would try the display in another radio, or try a known good display. Is your radio a factory radio? Is it a Model 1.5, 2, or 3?


Jim
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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n7maq wrote:
GizmoSwizz wrote:
n7maq wrote:Picture number 4, it was the bigger connector. The bad contacts were closer to the outside edge of the radio also.

Jim
ok the flexband with the nr 3601 MFS ? i has re solded this flexband but nothing is changing ... only backlight is workz.
the pins are ok what i can see on the 2 boards. other ideas ? :(
Was the old display working before you changed it? I assume not, but I still need to ask. I would try the display in another radio, or try a known good display. Is your radio a factory radio? Is it a Model 1.5, 2, or 3?


Jim
Yes before it was broken then everything worked. Is a Model 3!
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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[quote="GizmoSwizz"]

Yes before it was broken then everything worked. Is a Model 3![/quote


How did the other LCD get damaged? Dropped, crushed, did the old one just stop working?

Have you tried another LCD, or tested the replacement? It would not be the first time that an LCD is DOA (bad out of box). That is the first thing I would check.


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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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n7maq wrote:
GizmoSwizz wrote:
Yes before it was broken then everything worked. Is a Model 3![/quote


How did the other LCD get damaged? Dropped, crushed, did the old one just stop working?

Have you tried another LCD, or tested the replacement? It would not be the first time that an LCD is DOA (bad out of box). That is the first thing I would check.


Jim
That display was pressed. Not so much but it was nothing more readable. Therefore, it was exchanged.

No, unfortunately I have no other displays available. :( This is my Problem and here i can not buy any ...
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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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GizmoSwizz wrote:That display was pressed. Not so much but it was nothing more readable. Therefore, it was exchanged.

No, unfortunately I have no other displays available. :( This is my Problem and here i can not buy any ...
Where was it exchanged? If you cannot buy any, the exchange had to come from somewhere right? Maybe try exchanging it again and say that the display is bad out of the box... Just a thought.

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If your radio has old firmware, programming it with the latest CPS will not add any new features unless you have the latest firmware to match..

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Re: XTS 2500 III - only Display backlight

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Mfire39 wrote:
GizmoSwizz wrote:That display was pressed. Not so much but it was nothing more readable. Therefore, it was exchanged.

No, unfortunately I have no other displays available. :( This is my Problem and here i can not buy any ...
Where was it exchanged? If you cannot buy any, the exchange had to come from somewhere right? Maybe try exchanging it again and say that the display is bad out of the box... Just a thought.

-Marc

Yes, I'll probably try this path to a new display.
I thank you in any case for good help! If anyone has an idea that he should only post;)

I have rarely seen so good forum! Respect! Keep up the good work.

greets from Switzerland :)
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