Q about selective radio inhibit - Radio is dead

[Jay G.]

Hey all. Question:

A friend bought a used XTS3000 at a hamfest, sold "as-is". Radio powers up, and goes through self test, and then totally dies. When the radio was read with s/w, it said the radio was basically locked using selective radio inhibit. Is there any way of reviving this radio without it going to Motorola??

thanks for the help!

[d119]

I would find this VERY suspicious and would recommend you do a thorough investigation as to the origin of the radio. This includes a check though local/NCIC via your local law enforcement agency, and perhaps a call to Motorola with the serial number inquiring who the original purchaser was.

[MT2000 man]

I 100% agree with d119. Getting your friends radio back to life is slim to none, without sending it back to M, or find out where the radio was inhibited from, and have it uninhibited (very unlikely, since it was inhibited for a reason).

[d119]

I 100% agree with d119. Getting your friends radio back to life is slim to none, without sending it back to M, or find out where the radio was inhibited from, and have it uninhibited (very unlikely, since it was inhibited for a reason).

It can be done, but I'm leery of discussing it because of where the radio was purchased, and the issue it's experiencing. That radio needs to be investigated, but that's up to whomever is in possession of it.

Motorola is unlikely to do anything if the radio is sent to them, again, because of the issue it's experiencing. Motorola isn't in the business of reviving inhibited radios that are sent to them without a lengthy explanation, and that would most likely have to come from the agency that originally purchased the radio. Motorola tracks serial numbers and who they were sold to very carefully, especially on high-tier radios.

[jpatrou]

More that likely the radio was inhibited by a KMC or KMF, and that specific KMC or KMF is the only way to enable the radio, other than Motorola.

[d119]

More that likely the radio was inhibited by a KMC or KMF, and that specific KMC or KMF is the only way to enable the radio, other than Motorola.

I don't think key management resources ever controlled selective enable/disable. It's most likely the radio was inhibited via a trunked central controller or a dispatch console with an MDC resource on it.

[Twisted_Pear]

If it was inhibited via a trunked system it makes finding where the radio came from a lot easier since one can (hopefully) look up the system ID on RadioReference or other identifiable info. I'm not sure how helpful Motorola is in these situations.

[Pj]

True, but I believe the RSS/CPS does not allow you to see the codeplug information. IIRC, it says "Radio Inhibited" and the screen goes back to the normal "no codeplug" looking screen.

[Twisted_Pear]

True, but I believe the RSS/CPS does not allow you to see the codeplug information. IIRC, it says "Radio Inhibited" and the screen goes back to the normal "no codeplug" looking screen.

I wonder if it's possible to read the memory before it's dumped ala the password trick.

[alex]

I am pretty sure that you can read the codeplug in CPS, however, you can no save it back to the radio as it is inhibited.

That should get you to the screen with the TRS information and you can contact the admin.

-Alex

[jpatrou]

I do know for a fact that the KMC and the newer KMF have the ability to selectively inhibit and then enable specific radios on their respective systems through OTAR. I have done it on the KMC that I managed for 10 years.

[Pj]

Correct, they can. However they would be in the minority as the majority of inhibits are done on "rank and file" plain jane trunked systems. There is not (in the US) a perponderace of KMF + OTAR + trunked systems as there are SmartNet or SmartZone systems - that OTAR would be installed to inhibit such radios.

In other words, those options are not typically purchased due to the outragous price motorola charges for it.