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IF MOTOROLA SOLD PAINT...



Customer: Hi. How much is your paint?
Motorola Salesman: Well, sir, that all depends on quite a lot of things.

Customer: Can you give me a guess? Is there an average price?
Motorola Salesman: Our lowest price is $12 a gallon, and we have 60 different
prices
up to $200 a gallon.

Customer: What's the difference in the paint?
Motorola Salesman: Oh, there isn't any difference; it's all the same paint.

Customer: Well, then I'd like some of that $12 paint.
Motorola Salesman: When do you intend to use the paint?

Customer: I want to paint tomorrow. It's my day off.
Motorola Salesman: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint.

Customer: When would I have to paint to get the $12 paint?
Motorola Salesman: You would have to start very late at night in about 3 weeks.
But
you will have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and
continue painting until at least Sunday.

Customer: You've got to be kidding!
Motorola Salesman: I'll check and see if we have any paint available.
Customer: You have shelves FULL of paint! I can see it!

Motorola Salesman: But it doesn't mean that we have paint available. We sell
only a
certain number of gallons on any given weekend. Oh, and by the way, the
price per gallon just went to $16. We don't have any more $12 paint.

Customer: The price went up as we were talking?
Motorola Salesman: Yes, sir. We change the prices and rules hundreds of times a
day,
and since you haven't actually walked out of the store with your paint
yet, we just decided to change. I suggest you purchase your paint as
soon as possible. How many gallons do you want?

Customer: Well, maybe five gallons. Make that six, so I'll have enough.
Motorola Salesman: Oh no, sir, you can't do that. If you buy paint and don't
use it,
there are penalties and possible confiscation of the paint you already
have.

Customer: WHAT?
Motorola Salesman: We can sell enough paint to do your kitchen, bathroom, hall
and
north bedroom, but if you stop painting before you do the bedroom, you
will lose your remaining gallons of paint.

Customer: What does it matter whether I use all the paint? I already
paid you for it!
Motorola Salesman: We make plans based upon the idea that all our paint is used,
every drop. If you don't, it causes us all sorts of problems.

Customer: This is crazy!! I suppose something terrible happens if I
don't keep painting until after Saturday night!
Motorola Salesman: Oh yes! Every gallon you bought automatically becomes the
$200
paint.

Customer: But what are all these, "Paint on sale from $10 a liter"
signs?
Motorola Salesman: Well that's for our budget paint. It only comes in
half-gallons.
One $5 half-gallon will do half a room. The second half-gallon to
complete the room is $20. None of the cans have labels, some are empty
and there are no refunds, even on the empty cans.

Customer: Forget this! I'll buy what I need somewhere else!
Motorola Salesman: I don't think so, sir. You may be able to buy paint for your
bathroom and bedrooms, and your kitchen and dining room from someone
else, but you won't be able to paint your connecting hall and
stairway from anyone but us. And I should point out, sir, that if you
paint in only one direction, it will be $300 a gallon.

Customer: I thought your most expensive paint was $200!
Motorola Salesman: That's if you paint around the room to the point at which you
started. A hallway is different.

Customer: And if I buy $200 paint for the hall, but only paint in one
direction, you'll confiscate the remaining paint.
Motorola Salesman: No, we'll charge you an extra use fee plus the difference on
your
next gallon of paint. But I believe you're getting it now, sir.

Customer: You're insane!
Motorola Salesman: Thanks for painting with Motorola.

Hahaha, oh man...that's classic!

Don't forget the paint purchase 12 page licensing agreement, and if it';s the Waris paint
you'd like that's a seperate licensing agreement and 4 days later you'll be told 'sorry we cannot fil your order at this time'.

I don't get what you guys are talking about. I have these 2 channel Maxtracs and they are great. I sure wish they had more channels though.
Every time I want to change frequencies I take it to the local radio shop and he does it for me. And he only charges me $80 for each radio. And he usually can do it while I wait. He is really a nice guy isn't he.

OMG LMFAO

Poooor calif dave, I hope he is really be sarcastic with us, I really hope so lol,

But I do like that joke lol, good one, I feel the same way, ohhhh dont forget the handling fee, and the in person fee lol.\\

Don't forget their $2000+ ruggedized paintbrush option...........

Works with The Astro PURDY and the standard PURDY brushes.........

You can buy a ruggedized paintbrush at the time of your purchase for under $500 but when you want to upgrade your standard paintbrush (out of frustration) and ask for the upgrade, they tell you it will cost more than a basic model Purdy Brush new..............

If you don't like it, then they will tell you to Paint with ROSS~~~~

Sorry but someone is SURELY sniffing WAY too much JET Fuel.........
Epoxy high anyone? <----Thats after you get off the phone and can't f'n describe your frustration..........

Since when did this fourm change from people helping people with proplems/issues to product bashing.

If you don't like the product that much, this is not the proper forum for you.

Get OVER it, we're not product bashing, as we're or at least I for one buy only motorola, I simply vopiced my opinion on Purdy brushes...........

Alan -

Don't like humor?

It's not Bat-Bashing at all.

I've dealt with most of Mot's groups and divisions over the years. Some, like their embedded computer group and semi groups, are in commodity businesses and act accordingly. They make internal info, schematics, code, etc., available to customers and re-sellers. They DO understand that the customer can go elsewhere in a heatbeat.

For many years, the Land Mobile Products Sector (LMPS) folks had a virtual monopoly on public safety systems. They got clobbered in the late 80's when a number of other makers 'snuck up' on them with very good, durable, high-function radios and complete system at a lower price.

It's always a good business practice to concentrate on looking out the front windshield and not obsessing over what's in the rear-view mirror. However, you DO need to frequently glance to the rear and see who's likely to pass you soon. Basically, LMPS had compleltey ingnored the rear-view mirror.

In 1980, anyone who did a large city or state comm system with anything other than Mot gear was playing russian-roulette with their carrer. Much like IBM at time - staying with the leader was safe and insured long-term employment.

Most of mot's divisions are now in commodity businesses and had changed accordingly. LMPS has only partially adopted to this changing market. Some product lines, like Radius, were clearly meant to change direction in a few markets.

Are they right?? Time will tell.
Need a complex system - Mot is one of the best at doing the ENTIRE system very successfully.
Are they cheap? Absolutely not. Want to save a bunch of $$, then you usually need to take a bit of a risk.. just like everything else in life.

Suppliers are praised later for doing a complete and quality job. They are NOT praised later just for saving money!

I was just joking folks. This only happened to me the first time. With the help of everyone on this web site I have converted them to 16ch and program them myself.

I like Motorola stuff. I think the Maxtracs are great. I even put one in my Wife's car and she likes using it.
Compared to grinding crystals like I used to do, Programing a Maxtrac is a blast.

You got to admit though Motorola is kind of wound to tight at times. And because of this they are losing ground to other brands. I have just recently tried some Kenwood commerical stuff and it preforms pretty good. But I still like the Maxtracs. I am in the process of putting up a repeater using 2 UHF Maxtracs and a R*I*C*K.

I once drove 35 miles to buy a new saber antenna from the closest motorola shop (ok I was bored that day and I live in a small town)
the lady actually gave it to me free of charge for my effort. Thinking of it now I should have stopped by the casino too that day with that kind of experience in a motorola shop.

Actually, I find the people in the shops to be great and very helpful. It seems it's all the crap generated by the corporate regs. at the top end that screw everyone.


mancow

Hey, ABC... thinking of it now, why don't you send a copy of that to big M. I'll bet many up there would secretly agree with the point you made.


mancow

Well if anyone comes across an "R" housing for an astro model 2. email me or p/m me
[email protected]

Name your price and don't sniff any Phosgene before contacting me.
Motorola's sniffed enough

Just my opinion - but the one most likely to see your warts is the one looking in your face the most.

This board is proof enough of the dedication of the users - McDonalds doesn't have one.

Almost all of us here are pretty exclusively mothermoto owners/operators. I started out with a 2 channel T43GGV in 1967. Many of us here have seen the ups and downs of a company that used to sell the best dam radios on the planet.

As stated so eloquently above, some quicker (cheaper) folks started in on mother's business - positioned mainly on price points - Shinwa, et al. <editorial mode on>. Mother's response was the plastic cheap unreliable stuff that replaced the MT1000 family, as an example. But in responding, she didn't always know which way to jump, or how high. Unfortunately, she also (later) bought into the computer industry practices - software upgrades/limitations, firmware crap.

The programming software license nonsense was to protect the Motorola Service Shops (authorized sales/service), where we were supposed to buy upgrades/accessories, get repairs, etc. However, it is cheaper for me to scrounge parts, as it seems that mothermoto has gone to a 2000% markup.

Everyone of us has had an MSS program our radios, and then it won't do what we wanted it to do - even though it was within the capabilities of the radio, and we gave explicit instructions to the service shop. And they charged us both times - the first time, and then when we took it back for them do it right.

Motorola has some problems with employee morale, loyalty, product knowledge, and customer service. But then, what industry hasn't? <editorial mode off>

Having said all that (whew!) - I was and am a die-hard MOTOROLA user.

I currently personally own over 30 pieces of Motorola gear, 2 RCA rcvrs. (given to me), and 3 rat-shack scanners (1 the first scanner I ever owned).

I don't do this for a living, just a hobby. I have Motorola because its the best.

But that doesn't mean perfect. If you don't like the tone of our posts, go read an EDACS board or something.

Jack

BRAVO JACK!

Not to mention "Oh, were we supposed to tell you we broke (further) the unit you sent in for repair? "

Via the local MSS, sent in a Spectra Head. Came back still broke.
Rinse Lather Repeat 3 times more, on 4th time, shop owner was actually told by the M rep Oh, well the last tech dumped the wrong codeplug into the head corrupting the rom, we hoped you (your customer) either A] Wouldn't notice or B} Could somehow make it work anyway "

More likely hoped we'd give up and buy new stuff.

Now the radio is fried, won't allow a front head, including one NIB we tried. Back still works, but hard to drive the ambulance from the rear facing seat in patient compartment.

(incidentally, the shop owner gave me a 4 channel dash-mount radio and install, and antenna on permanent loan so we could get the truck back on the street)