another ID for r0f this time an XTS

apco25 · Post by **apco25** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:02 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... egory=4669

Your thoughts? And just what is an "international radio" flash?

RocketNJ · Post by **RocketNJ** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:33 pm

I've seen radios with the international bit set and they were not readable using the U.S. version programming software. While I cannot say if this would be a problem with the radio in question, it is certainly something to consider. An example is the Waris line of radios (HT1250/CDM1250). Same radio as the Latin American version but one bit makes all the difference.

The radio in question has a hacked Flashcode, probably a "Nick" radio. Definitely NOT the original Flashcode when the radio was ordered from Motorola since Modat and OTACS were not offered in the XTS3000 (I believe).

Just be cautious since the cost to get it fixed might be steep if a problem should arise.

George

RocketNJ · Post by **RocketNJ** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:35 pm

Also on some radios the international bit may set frequency range bands different than the U.S. counterpart.

George

apco25 · Post by **apco25** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:43 pm

That's what I was thinking - international = some weird option.

yes obviously someone put the nick flash in...

once again other suspect radio....

Post by **wavetar** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:25 am

It's a very nice looking unit. If the HOST & DSP versions are as advertised, then it's worth considering. The flashcode can be changed to what ever you wish, with MTSX LAB 3.00.02 & the right codeplug.

Todd

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:30 am

This radio has the "Nick" "whored-out" flashcode...it will work no problem with the Astro Portable RSS.

It's got pretty decent Host/DSP, so it will do IMBE, and is capable of so as it is right now.

-Mike

apco25 · Post by **apco25** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:17 pm

ah well in that case I'll consider it or I'll wait for dayton

10-95 · Post by **10-95** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:20 pm

wavetar wrote:It's a very nice looking unit. If the HOST & DSP versions are as advertised, then it's worth considering. The flashcode can be changed to what ever you wish, with MTSX LAB 3.02.00 & the right codeplug.

Todd

Hey Todd, that is very helpful info!! Thanks for posting that, you just solved a few problems for me.

Frank

wb4bsd · Post by **wb4bsd** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:34 pm

So if you can change the flashcode on an XTS with MTSX LAB, does that mean you can do the same thing with any jedi series radio that works with MTSX LAB???????

10-95 · Post by **10-95** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:55 pm

wb4bsd wrote:So if you can change the flashcode on an XTS with MTSX LAB, does that mean you can do the same thing with any jedi series radio that works with MTSX LAB???????

No, beware of the dreaded "tool proffing" issues on certain version MTS controllers!

Frank

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:53 am

Further to this;

You cannot mess with an MTS2000 with MTSX Lab, however, you can play with an MT2000, MTX2000, MTX838, MTX8000 and MTX9000. You can make any of those radios do 255 modes, MDC, trunking, as well as several other goodies.

-Mike

MikeOxlong · Post by **MikeOxlong** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:23 pm

So you can't use mtsx lab to force a cp into an mts?

Seems like I've done this several times. Guess I shouldn't have.

Post by **wavetar** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:53 pm

MikeOxlong wrote:So you can't use mtsx lab to force a cp into an mts?

Seems like I've done this several times. Guess I shouldn't have.

Yes, you were lucky.

The MTS2000 series has something called 'toolproofing', which causes an 'error 10/93' when you try to do any editing of the feature set with LAB. The only way to recover from it is to force the original packed codeplug back into the unit (if you were fortunate enough to think to save one).

If the firmware version of the MTS2000 is below 5.42, then you're ok to use LAB. Firmware version 5.42 was introduced sometime in '94/'95, so the vast majority of MTS2000 radios out there are prone to the toolproofing.

Of course, an MTX8000/MT2000 converted into an MTS2000 with LAB are not at risk for toolproofing, since they do not have the actual MTS2000 firmware.

The Astro series of radios (XTS3000, Astro Saber, Astro Spectra) are not affected by toolproofing either.

Todd