I'm wondering, If I had two Astro Sabers one Uhf, IMBE and one Vhf, VSELP would the control boards be interchangable ? Can I make the Vhf IMBE by swaping the boards or is the control board made for each frequency band ?
Thanks
Dan..
Astro Control Board swap ??
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Elroy Jetson
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It'd do you no good. The control boards
would then be connected to RF boards of
the wrong band. Unless you had a way to
tell the boards what the new band is, you'd
get nothing useful.
If you're thinking about labbing a board, well, unfortunately the common version of lab (3.04) doesn't understand IMBE, since it predates IMBE. It can be used to reset the model number and the RF band to the new correct values (If the model number doesn't match the band, the software won't let you program the radio right) but you'd still have to have a desirable feature set to blow into the radio via clone or the various no pack/unpack functions. And you still couldn't turn a VSELP radio into IMBE.
Elroy
would then be connected to RF boards of
the wrong band. Unless you had a way to
tell the boards what the new band is, you'd
get nothing useful.
If you're thinking about labbing a board, well, unfortunately the common version of lab (3.04) doesn't understand IMBE, since it predates IMBE. It can be used to reset the model number and the RF band to the new correct values (If the model number doesn't match the band, the software won't let you program the radio right) but you'd still have to have a desirable feature set to blow into the radio via clone or the various no pack/unpack functions. And you still couldn't turn a VSELP radio into IMBE.
Elroy
Elroy, your response is certainly not true.
He could replace the boards, then read/write unpack a working codeplug.
For instance, if he wants the VHF radio to be an IMBE radio, he could swap out the controller board - and then dump a working VHF IMBE codeplug into the radio. The controller board is already IMBE (host DSP ready) and the RF Deck is VHF. New codeplug, problem solved
He could replace the boards, then read/write unpack a working codeplug.
For instance, if he wants the VHF radio to be an IMBE radio, he could swap out the controller board - and then dump a working VHF IMBE codeplug into the radio. The controller board is already IMBE (host DSP ready) and the RF Deck is VHF. New codeplug, problem solved
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Elroy Jetson
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While you could do that if you had access to software you shouldn't have, I'd still be careful. The DSP and HOST versions are the absoute arbitrators of what will work and what won't. While the VSELP codeplug in the IMBE radio might work, it's unlikely that putting an IMBE codeplug into a VSELP controller will result in a radio that works properly.
Such changes can result in a paperweight.
Elroy
Such changes can result in a paperweight.
Elroy
Elroy,
Read his post carefully. I realize that a IMBE codeplug in a VSELP radio would not work, but that isn't what he is asking.
He wants to make the VHF radio which is currently a VSELP radio an IMBE radio by switching out his UHF Controller board which is IMBE.
I would assume that all he would need to do then is dump in a VHF IMBE codeplug to replace the UHF IMBE codeplug, and everything would be peachy.
Read his post carefully. I realize that a IMBE codeplug in a VSELP radio would not work, but that isn't what he is asking.
He wants to make the VHF radio which is currently a VSELP radio an IMBE radio by switching out his UHF Controller board which is IMBE.
I would assume that all he would need to do then is dump in a VHF IMBE codeplug to replace the UHF IMBE codeplug, and everything would be peachy.
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Elroy Jetson
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Yes, I know what he has and what he's trying to do. But there's a BIG problem to consider: The model number. The IMBE codeplug will not be readable via lab, so what will happen is the IMBE codeplug can be
transferred into the target radio OK, but the model number will NOT be correct for the new band. And you won't be able to edit that model number with lab if the codeplug won't load normally. With the model number not matching the band range, the normal RSS that
is used to read that IMBE codeplug will not be of any use because the model number won't match the band.
The VSELP codeplugs aren't a problem with lab. Provided they can be read directly via lab, that is. You can toss them all over the place with that. Change bands, serials, models, etc. No problem. But if you don't have an IMBE friendly version of lab you won't be able to make those essential changes to the IMBE codeplug which means you won't be able to make it work in the target radio.
The RSS relies on the model number of the codeplug to determine what band it is. If
it's incorrect, it's not going to work.
Maybe you can get something going with an archive or S-record dump, if you can make that work.
Elroy
transferred into the target radio OK, but the model number will NOT be correct for the new band. And you won't be able to edit that model number with lab if the codeplug won't load normally. With the model number not matching the band range, the normal RSS that
is used to read that IMBE codeplug will not be of any use because the model number won't match the band.
The VSELP codeplugs aren't a problem with lab. Provided they can be read directly via lab, that is. You can toss them all over the place with that. Change bands, serials, models, etc. No problem. But if you don't have an IMBE friendly version of lab you won't be able to make those essential changes to the IMBE codeplug which means you won't be able to make it work in the target radio.
The RSS relies on the model number of the codeplug to determine what band it is. If
it's incorrect, it's not going to work.
Maybe you can get something going with an archive or S-record dump, if you can make that work.
Elroy