where to find digital keys for police to listen on d radio

hpandcanon · Post by **hpandcanon** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 2:02 pm

yes i have a digital radio and i need the keys so i ca listen to them. where do i get those is there a web site with them or what

RadioSouth · Post by **RadioSouth** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 2:20 pm

Oh Boy !

Post by **alex** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 2:42 pm

RadioSouth wrote:Oh Boy !

OK, before the thread gets out of hand, I'll say that A) I agree, and B) we need a LOT more information regarding what you have and what you want to accomplish.

IF you don't know what your doing with this stuff it's more cost AND time effective for you to go and purchase a Uniden Scanner. If you need digital, any day now the new scanners are supposed to be out. It'll cost you less than the radio you more than likly just got.

I would hold your water for a couple of days and wait for the scanner. You can do some reading on Lindsy's Turnking site:

http://www.trunkedradio.net - and also search here.

I will issue a word of caution. People on this board aren't in the business of telling people how to add radios to public safety systems, espically when you have someone who comes off as not really knowing what they are doing. I would URGE you strongly to construct your questions throughly, and with the knoledge and understanding of what you are going to undertake.

-Alex
Administrator.

(please keep the flames to a minimum)

hpandcanon · Post by **hpandcanon** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 2:52 pm

what iam looking for is the keys for the state police in new hampshire mass and maybe vermont. i cant seem to find them. all i want to do is monitor them. just like undiens digital scanners there has to be a way to get the codes or keys to listen to them. or else the digital scanners would be useless. so some where out there. theres a web site or something

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 3:22 pm

Well, the Uniden scanner doesn't need the system key. The system keys that Motorola use are just files that let the programmer of a trunked radio program info for that particular system. You will not be able to get a system key for that system that you want to listen to. Those keys are protected very well, because if you have the key, you can get onto the system and transmit or whatever else. Each key is only valid for a particular system. As Alex said earlier, you'd be better off waiting for the Uniden scanner to come out. Even if you did happen to come across the key (which more than likely will never happen), you'd still have to deal with all of the issues of programming a Motorola radio that would NOT be worth the risk of turning your radio into a paper weight.
I think it will be hard to mess up a scanner just by pressing a wrong button, but it's VERY easy with Motorola radio, especially the newer high tier radios.
Hope this helps...
Scott

Post by Pj » Mon Dec 30, 2002 3:28 pm

In short, the only way to get the radio programmed would be from the State Police. Essentially they are the only one's with the system key.

Yes there is a way around it, but if you mess up just one "bit", you will now have a large repair bill to get it fixed, and you still will be where you started.

hpandcanon · Post by **hpandcanon** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 3:56 pm

ok thank you guys. i pretty good with programing radios. but i guess i wont be able to listen to the state police. oh well i guess. whats the other way around it. i know if i mess up its my fault but on well whats the way if you know
thanks

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 4:12 pm

hpandcanon wrote:i pretty good with programing radios.

hpandcanon wrote:whats the other way around it.

Pardon the flame, but if you knew how to program radios, then you'd know the other 'method'...
Scott

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 4:16 pm

Are you talking about an IMBE APCO-25 system (Astro) or the old SecureNet type thing? Either way, I don't think you're going to accomplish whatever it is your trying to do.

hpandcanon · Post by **hpandcanon** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 4:20 pm

apco 25 systems. and i have never programmed a astro digital radio so thats why i dont know the other way around it. i guess i will have to ask a friend that works for the state police and see if i can get the codes

hpandcanon · Post by **hpandcanon** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 9:26 pm

i have a xts and i want to listen to the state police in nh. but they are digital and i need the codes keys what ever they are to listen to them where do i find them. thanks shaun for your help and yes it is a motorola system i think they use the xts 3500. also iam not useing it to trunk. i only need to monitor troop b which is one freq

007 · Post by **007** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 9:39 pm

Where's Lassie?? She'd know where to go....

ScannerDan · Post by **ScannerDan** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 9:52 pm

You keep calling them "Code Keys" . They are not called code keys it is called a Network ID's for the IMBE Digital radio system.

Dan...

MT2000 man · Post by **MT2000 man** » Mon Dec 30, 2002 10:03 pm

Hang on, let me get my "code book" out

On the serious side, once you get your digital radio up and running, you should enjoy it. I had an astro saber UHF, but never got around to programming any digital channels in the radio, then, 4 weeks later, sold it

Anyone got an astro saber III they want to part with?

:)

jbella · Post by **jbella** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 6:53 am

Okay, let's cut to the chase some more;

The NH system is VHF and digital, it is not a trunked system. They just kept the same frequencies and went digital. (From what I've heard).

The Mass system is a /\/\ 800 trunked analog system, readily scannable and trunkable with all trunking scanners out there. The signal penetration statewide is very good.

From what I know the Vt system is conventional UHF.

In other words, 1 2-way radio will not do the trick. 1 scanner will (if the NH system isn't 9600n baud or whatever).

The only other digital systems in central-northern New England that I know of are the Ct. SP, Nashua NH 800 trunked system, and the Devens Mass Federal Correctional facility.

Hope this clears up some more.

hpandcanon · Post by **hpandcanon** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 8:26 am

ok guys thanks but i still dont know the network keys and i went to that site that shaun gave me and i still dont know what to do. so can anyone again help me. i need to network keys so i can listen to them. you are right they are on digital vhf the freq is 154.935 but i still need the digital keys to listen to them. so if anyone is out there that can point me in the right direction i would like that. thanks for all your help

ricciticcitembo · Post by **ricciticcitembo** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 8:34 am

And its not even April............

There is this one other person who frequents this board with
hundreds of posts with questions just like yours.

The key to getting the answer you are looking for depends mostly
on just asking the question. But the question has to at least make
some kind of sense.

KG6EAQ · Post by **KG6EAQ** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 9:11 am

I'll save you the trouble of going to the store... $50 shipped, I'll take it.

Post by **Code3Response** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 9:12 am

Ill go $100 shipped!

KG6EAQ · Post by **KG6EAQ** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 9:13 am

$101.99!

AngelFire_91 · Post by **AngelFire_91** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 9:21 am

yes it is a motorola system i think they use the xts 3500. also iam not useing it to trunk. i only need to monitor troop b which is one freq

Ok, First off I have to say that this is the most calm posting like this I have ever seen. It usally get's pretty ugly.

There is a lot of information you are leaving out. What is the name of the system you are looking for. Not the name you are giving it, But the name that it is accually lincensed under? From the information in the TRS database, there is only 3 systems in NH only one of which is Motorola.

System Name: Nashua Public Safety
Location: Nashua, NH
County: Hillsborough
System Type: Motorola ASTRO 3600 baud
Sysid: ****
Type: APCO-25

I'm going to let you do your own reasearch for the System ID. A search on "State Police" only turned up a bunch in IN, IL, KY, and MA. no NH.
So with that in mind. We need more information if we are going to help you, If in fact we even help you more than we already have. A Frequency for the control channel might help, the proper name, and maybe some other stuff. Another problem your going to run into is after you find out what the System/Network ID is you are going to make a SysKey file. Good luck getting someone here to make you one. The information is out there but it's not easy.
The last thing I have to say is. Make sure of your Frequencies, They could have stayed the same exact way but only changed to ASTRO. Did you get the right Frequency of XTS is it Flashed right for the system, and I really think it would be well worth your time and money to get a Uniden Scanner and resale or return your XTS. If all of the hurddles are finally jumped by you. I really would not feel comfortable working in NH. I'm not a very big fan of people hacking into Public safety Systems and possably causing problems. I'm not saying that you will cause any problems but if you are into the system then there is that posibility of accedentaly transmitting.

I just realized that after I wrote this whole long thing I accually had something to say about the quote. Trunking is not something you can or can not do. If it is a trunked system then you are using trunking radio's. how can you not Trunk on a trunked system??

motor59 · Post by **motor59** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 9:25 am

$125.95 !

Going once......Going twice.....

AngelFire_91 · Post by **AngelFire_91** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 9:29 am

I'll even go up to $200.00

motor59 · Post by **motor59** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 9:34 am

AngelFire_91 wrote:I'll even go up to $200.00

Damn, sniped again.

This place is getting as bad as ebay!

phrawg · Post by **phrawg** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 10:57 am

$200.01 ands I'll ship !!!!!

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 11:38 am

I really think you would benefit from selling the radio and buying a 785-D scanner & IMBE card.

wa2zdy · Post by **wa2zdy** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:22 pm

Fellas, there's a big rat in this one somewhere.

I think it's time to do something, what I dunno though.

Happy New Year to all.

Post by **alex** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:48 pm

Chris -

Problem solved. I'll give her a good 'ol lock.

hpandcannon -If you have some specific questions feel free to start a new topic. KEEPING IN MIND that we are willing to help, but there's a limit as to how much we will, esp. with how you have structured your questions.

Please - do some research and think about the questions before asking. The answers are all out there, just use the tools you have been given.

A good start: The search feature.

-Alex

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