takeing to long to do a Install

KitN1MCC · Post by **KitN1MCC** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 4:29 pm

Do you guys ever get Customers taking to long when you do an install

with me i am the only Guy no one else to answer too and i do it on the Side so i take my time and do the install 10000%

but some guys are like glad you dont get paid by the hour

April · Post by **April** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 6:51 pm

I was taught to take my time and do a through job to the best of my ability, and call for help if I needed. The co usally charged a flat rate for the installs.
I do the trunk mount, Spectra or Maratrac in about three hours without taking any shortcuts.
Having the proper tools is a must.

jim · Post by **jim** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:33 pm

Huh ???

apco25 · Post by **apco25** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:46 pm

Time is the key as it gives your the chance to do those professional touches like all cable runs secured with cable clamps, soldered and heat shrink covered connector instead of crimping etc etc. Its worth the time espeically for the fire service vehicle with their long lifespan.

Glen W Christen · Post by **Glen W Christen** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:35 pm

To repeat the old saying, "You never have time to do it right but you have time to do it over. " Even then, idiots will prevail; we had an installer drill a hole through the floor of the trunk and run the transmitter high current lead under the body to the battery. The biggest problem was that he wire-tied it to the EXHAUST pipe the entire run. The deputy didn't even get home before he couldn't transmit.

nmfire10 · Post by **nmfire10** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:46 pm

Glen W Christen wrote: The biggest problem was that he wire-tied it to the EXHAUST pipe the entire run. The deputy didn't even get home before he couldn't transmit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. I just can not fathom what would pursuade someone to do that

W4KRR · Post by **W4KRR** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:41 pm

We've had radio installers that drilled through the floor of the trunk into the gas tank on more than one occasion.

--K--

JAYMZ · Post by **JAYMZ** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:53 pm

I've heard it fairly regularly hearing about radios and trunk organization systems being drilled into the gas tanks of vehicles all the time.

My favorite was the guy that drilled a screw for a grille lights right through a peice of sheet metal and straight through the radiator... It leaked as they drove down the road...overheated the car...and blew the head gasket....

FFParamedic571 · Post by **FFParamedic571** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:00 pm

A Municipal agency I work on has their own radio shop. They do their own radios. We do the lighting and MDT's.

SO here goes the story...

The officer brings his car up to the shop for the install of the lighting. While he is on the way he smells gasoline, really strong. The Radio shop had installed their Syntor X in the back of Interceptor on the driver side trunk shelf. Using 3" sheet metal screws. Every time he stopped it leaked raw gas in the trunk.

The officer calls the supervisor who comes out and deems it unsafe and has the car towed to the their fleet services. Since its a new car they send it to the dealer for a new gas tank trunk liner and cleaning $1600 later..

Next month the same car comes back but with a different officer. He complains about the gas smell. The trunk does smell but no raw gas. On a hunch I removed the syntor ..Lo and behold there is the same 3" sheet metals. Car goes back to the dealer again. .

Now 2 weeks later the car comes back. This time it is driven by the department Fleet supervior. The radio is now installed on a piece of plywood and steel brackets off the trunk hinge and back wall. It turns out the same person instaled the radio in the same car both times. Finallly the Radio shop had the supervisor install the trunk unit. The right way. They informed the guy who cost the department $3200 in repairs they were going to write him up over the incident. He hid behind his Union rep. and when was served with papers at his house by the department he hid out.

Needless to say we havent seen a radio mounted directly to the trunk shelf from them since then.....

mancow · Post by **mancow** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:41 pm

I thought this was interesting...

My father's friend is a retired Kansas Trooper from way back in the 50s / 60s

He told me a story of when they used to have the old tube and relay driven trunk radios. They used to carry gas cans in the trunk too for those motorist assists. Well you all know what happened next.

He said it was a hot summer night and the cans must have leaked and produced a-lot of fumes that day. When he keyed the mic the trunk exploded and a fireball went through the cab. It burned him a bit but luckily he wasn't hurt.

He said it was a hell of a ride.

mancow

RADIOMAN2002 · Post by **RADIOMAN2002** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:56 pm

In the same vein as tywrapping the power wire to the exhaust,let me tell you about a service call we( 2 service techs, a Motorola FTR, because the cutomer was real upset, his new radio wasn't working) went out on years ago, for a report of noisy transmit in a new ambulance, while driving. After actually taking the new ambulance out for a ride with the service monitor inside the back, and verifing the complaint. Everyone scratched their heads untill I crawled under the ambulance and located the problem. The ambulance manufacturers tech who we sent the radio to for install at the factory, had wrapped the control cable from a front rear Mitrek around the driveshaft. Well I don't think, they ever bought an ambulance from them again, but were very happy with our response and repair of the problem

KitN1MCC · Post by **KitN1MCC** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:45 pm

Now that what i call Plain old Stupidity. or some one just did not care

FFParamedic571 · Post by **FFParamedic571** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:38 pm

The same municipal radio shop that did the fine work wiht the gas tank. They sent us another winner..

They ran the B+ in a CV interceptor from the trunk through the door track, but instead of drilling a firewall hole. they just pulled out a rubber plug in the floor board and ran it under the car through the strut and along the exhaust manifold to the battery No B02 fuse .. Needless to say the insulation was melted .. it hadnt shorted out... yet...

We fixed it and let the fleet supervisor know..A few days later we get a call from their union steward wanting to know why we are busting their asses about the quality of work and we shouldnt be touching their radios..

Go figure

KitN1MCC · Post by **KitN1MCC** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 5:57 pm

Typical union Garbage.

They are not there radios But the Citys tell the stewart to go to hell

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